RE: Leaving christianity, a bit of my story
July 11, 2016 at 5:31 pm
(This post was last modified: July 11, 2016 at 5:31 pm by SteveII.)
(July 11, 2016 at 4:39 pm)Simon Moon Wrote:(July 11, 2016 at 4:31 pm)SteveII Wrote: You are saying that period descriptions of historical events are not evidence of historical events. By your definition, we would never ever know anything about any historical events. In addition, the NT describes the events that were already believed to have happened and either written by eyewitnesses or people with access to eyewitnesses (either personally or through additional documents). Churches (which already believed that Jesus came, performed miracles, died, and rose again) existed before Paul started writing to them and before the gospel editors completed their works. Characterizing all 27 documents as the claim, is simply either (a) a misunderstanding of what it is they contain or (b) a catchy phrase used by atheist that has no real meaning.
I am fine with accepting descriptions of historical events in the NT that can also be verified from other sources. The NT does contain many such descriptions of historical events.
It is the supernatural god claims that I am referring to as being the claim, not evidence, in the NT.
The fact that there are 27 documents is meaningless. I can point out hundreds of documents written by sincere honest people who claim to have been abducted by aliens. Does the number of books and articles written by "abductees" lend any credibility to their claims?
Jesus claimed to be God. 27 documents support this as historical fact. Jesus did miracles and rose from the dead to support his claim. 27 documents support this as historical fact. Your alien analogy is significantly wanting. Do 27 of these alien abduction accounts catalog the same series of events (not similar experiences, the same exact events)?
Quote:Quote:Churches (which already believed that Jesus came, performed miracles, died, and rose again) existed before Paul started writing to them and before the gospel editors completed their works.
And their were churches already in existence that believed the entire resurrection story did not occur on earth, but in a supernatural realm.
Your fallacious thinking is not doing you any favors.
There were churches that believed this before 50-60 AD? Can you provide a link or references for this so I can review?
