(July 12, 2016 at 1:24 pm)Simon Moon Wrote:(July 11, 2016 at 5:31 pm)SteveII Wrote: Jesus claimed to be God. 27 documents support this as historical fact. Jesus did miracles and rose from the dead to support his claim. 27 documents support this as historical fact. Your alien analogy is significantly wanting. Do 27 of these alien abduction accounts catalog the same series of events (not similar experiences, the same exact events)?
There were churches that believed this before 50-60 AD? Can you provide a link or references for this so I can review?
Maybe not as early as the dates you mention, but pretty early.
Docetics existed in the 1st century, however. They did not believe that the Jesus story took place in a supernatural realm, but they did have drastically different Christian beliefs than post Council of Nicea Christians for sure.
They believed that Jesus' physical body was an illusion, as was his crucifixion. Jesus only seemed to have a physical body and to physically die, but in reality he was incorporeal, a pure spirit, and hence could not physically die.
Okay. I am familiar with that later belief. I will go with the entire NT written before this belief seemed to have surfaced in which it was clear that Jesus was real and his death and resurrection also real.
