Best Qur'an?

[RozKek]

 Ahem, this is not what I expected, I expected the other scientific miracles. However, what you're doing right now is very well explained in this video

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 Math Magic by Vsauce - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObiqJzfyACM

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To make it easy to understand, if you have big enough numbers, words and information you'll find all kinds of coincidences and patterns, and yes. They are coincidences and patterns, nothing more. It's mathematics, if you're gonna argue against mathematics, go ahead. So that should debunk pretty much everything you've said, but I'm not done. This should answer the "Science" and "Astronomy" claims, because you've used a heavy instance of math there. Whether you believe it or not, that is a mathematical coincidence no matter how much it doesn't look like it. Also humans have a tendency to seek patterns in random data, google up Apophenia. That's why you think this is miraculous, you assign the coincidences to a miraculous action from God.

I can add some more arguments against the linguistics: The word for day is actually used 475 times according to

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 https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Word_Count_Mi...hs_Miracle

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However, to be fair, wikiislam has it's criticism that you can view here, it actually made a page about it's criticism from both muslims and non-muslims

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 https://wikiislam.net/wiki/What_People_S...om_Muslims

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The word month is actually used 21 times according to

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 http://corpus.quran.com/qurandictionary....r#(2:185:1

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The word man is used 117 times

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 http://corpus.quran.com/search.jsp?q=Man&s=1&page=1

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The word woman is used 12 times

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 http://corpus.quran.com/search.jsp?q=woman

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The word angel is used 10 times

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 http://corpus.quran.com/search.jsp?q=Angel

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The word devil is used 4 times

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 http://corpus.quran.com/search.jsp?q=devil

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Here and hereafter is used around 15 times

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 http://corpus.quran.com/search.jsp?q=lif...s=1&page=1

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The ones about Jesus and Adam don't need to be coincidences, the writers could've just put it there... it's quite obvious.
The conclusion here is, you're wrong with the numbers.

Regarding the rest i.e astronomy, science etc, you've used heavy mathematics and they're pure coincidences, the video by Vsauce I linked demonstrates that.

This one wasn't fun to argue against it was just maths maths maths, however, thanks for taking your time. Hope we both learned something so far.

And, yes. They actually can be coincidences whether you believe it or not, whether you like it or not. Mathematics =) [/hide]

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I'm glad u took the chance to at least read and take a look at these miracles of the Qur'an. But u have to put everything I said into effect as well before u declare it as false. First off u have to understand this is with the original ARABIC LANGUAGE and not English or any other language it has been translated into. I said the word for "day" in the singular form which is "yaum" is used exactly 365 times. The forms of angel "Malaika" and devil "Shaitin" are used 88 times each. The word for man as mankind is "insan or nas" which is different from "rajul" meaning male human or man. This life "Dunya" and Hereafter "Akhirah" are each used 115 times.
What makes this as a miraculous scripture is who on the Earth, in the 7th century had access to this knowledge? Technology didn't yet exist to verify it. Yes mathematics is involved but God is The One who allows mathematics to work in and out of our atmosphere. So with astronomical value to the exact detail in a time period before telescopes were even invented, who besides God knew how many days it takes Venus to revolve around the sun, and at what angle it was tilted on its axis? Or that Mars was covered with sand dunes? Or that the Star Sirius is actually a double star with a bow-shaped orbit occurring every 49.9 years? Or something would happen on the moon in 1390 Hijra or 1969 A.D? To bring it closer to home, what about the precise water and land coverages on Earth? And the atomic number of iron which also happens to be the middle or core of our planet?
Other things mentioned that I didn't mention before such as the mountains. The people of the 7th century thought mountains held up the skies. Allah says in the Qur'an He put mountains in place as pegs lest the Earth should shake with you. Mountains are buried deep beneath the Earth as science has recently proven to prevent quakes.  And what about the creation of the embryo. Qur'anic detail gives precise form, shape, and stages of the embryo in it's earliest form. This is when scientists say it is about the size of a grain of rice. Being no x-rays or sonograms existed in the 7th century, someone had to know what they were talking about to describe it precisely to the "T". Or how about the "golden ratio" (1.61803398875)which is rounded to 1.618. Allah says in the Qur'an in 65:3 That "He (Allah) has an appointed measure for ALL THINGS." and 13:8 "And with Him, everything has due proportion." We all know Prophet Muhammad pbuh was from Mecca right? The place where the Holy Ka'abah is. If u use the Golden ratio for the planet Earth it points directly to the city of Mecca in Saudi Arabia. Is this just another coincidence or does this seem like a remarkable strategic plan?
So all of this coming from God Himself shows that only He had the knowledge then and why He is the sole producer of the Qur'an. This is one reason He sent it through Prophet Muhammad pbuh, a man who was illiterate. This shows that no man, not even God's messenger to all mankind could produce such a mighty scripture. Which not only gives God's message to mankind but also miraculously covers all areas and lifestyles of the people that were vainly arrogant of their knowledge of these things. So as said before my friend this is the work of God Allah alone. The Sole Creator of all things. No human could even begin to strategize such a marvel and this shows Allah is no human. If all humans created, put their brilliant minds together to try to construct such a plan it could never happen. But with Allah as God it is very simple. When He determines a matter He only says to it "Be" and it is.

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Alright, alright. This is a bit difficult for me to comment on since the Qur'an is quite vague and I don't speak arabic. However, we remember we agreed on that a miracle is something that is impossible without help from god. And like I've said, even if it doesn't seem like a coincidence, it is. You watched the video? Was there anything special with the bible and shakespear? No, it was just a coincidence found in one page. The Qur'an has 6000 verses and close to 80000 words. If you take a book as big as the Qur'an you can find so many patterns and coincidences in it that seem unreal. Also, I cannot confirm what you're saying is actually correct, I don't know where you got the information from. Also, I haven't used it much but WikiIslam lists sources, that should make it reliable, I'll use it more and see how it is, but I doubt WikiIslam uses only english Qur'ans since they do list sources from where they get it from etc.

This is taken directly from WikiIslam

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"What Qur'an translation do you use?

Unless otherwise stated, we use the respected and widely accepted translations of Yusuf Ali, Marmaduke Pickthal or M. H. Shakir. All Qur'an quotes are taken from the University of Southern California Muslim Students Association's Compendium of Muslim Texts." A link to their FAQ https://wikiislam.net/wiki/WikiIslam:Fre..._Questions 

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This should help.

If you look here, this guy lists all the verses with the word Yawm in it

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 http://www.answering-islam.org/Religions...5hoax.html

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You can use this as a heads up, check the verses yourself and count the words. Since your claim about Yawm is wrong I doubt that your other numbers are right. You should do the research yourself instead of just believing what another site says. Sure, you can say that too me too, but I, at least post my sources so you can check for yourself.

I don't understand what you mean by god allows mathematics... mathematics is simply symbols and such to describe the universe, phenomenon etc, it's not a physical thing that god can allow and not allow. 

Also, how come when I search if mountains prevent earth quakes there come no scientific articles but instead shitloads of islamic sites? It seems like what you're saying about mountains and earthquakes is bullshit and not correct, just made up my muslims trying to deceive themselves and others. However:

1) The largest earthquake ever recorded, the great Chilean earthquake wasn't prevented or stabilized by The Andes Mountain range.
2) The Asssam Mountains did nothing to prevent or stabilize a strong earthquake in Arunachal Pradesh in India.

So, you're wrong about the mountains and earthquakes and that means the Qur'an is wrong and if the Qur'an is wrong it can't be the words of God, can it?

Yet again, I searched up the golden ratio of earth, waddaya see. No scientific articles, just lies and bullshit. But I'll leave this here

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 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrzGT6YV5XM

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Now, last but not least! The embryology, my favorite! Now, we go back to what miracles are. Something that cannot happen without help from Allah. However, the ancient greeks had theories about the development of human embryos and they were almost correct. And they did it without the help from god. The important thing here is, one can clearly see the embryology information in the Qur'an is taken from the ancient greeks (Saudi Arabia had universities filled with ancient greek knowledge, so yes they could access it, I can get into that later on if you want). Funny thing is the Qur'an description of the embryology is very very similiar to the ancient greek description, not only that but both of them are actually wrong. Also, one of the most important parts, the ovum isn't mentioned in the ancient greek description and it isn't mentioned in the Qur'anic description either, how funny.

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it's a strong indication that it's taken from the ancient greeks. Why wouldn't Allah mention one of the most important parts?

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You need to check your sources, you've been tricked. Don't believe everything you read.

Also, can you use paragraphs, thanks? Don't you get tired of writing everything so messy?