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Best Qur'an?
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RE: Best Qur'an?
(July 13, 2016 at 12:11 pm)Sheed1980 Wrote:


Well, you can't take stuff from the Qur'an and say it's true without proving the Qur'an true. The Jesus virgin story etc etc aren't proven and they're irrelevant as of this discussion. But they're a good point of what miracles can be, so it might not be that irrelevant. 

Well I'm not in the right mood to write essays and books so I'll answer more with links, also I'd still like your sources. The miracle of 19 seems like yet another mathematical coincidence/manipulation. Here you can see the manipulation of 19 being used against islam, did Allah set them up too? Or are they simply just coincidences?

How do you know it has never been changed, how do you demonstrate that? Please use valid non biased sources.

How do you know God allows it to happen? Unsupported claim, all of it is happening without a God, and there are explanations for them. Go ahead and google up "Why can't we feel the earth moving?" Spoiler alert

Science explains everything better than a God. God doesn't even explain.

Your golden ratio link is biased. It's made my religious people, they're quoting the bible, it is not scientific at all. I mean come on, the video I linked the guy goes into fucking google maps and searches the golden ratio so you can see for yourself... And I don't think you know what scientific is.

Why do you only count Yaum in its singular form? You're manipulating the data so it works in your favor.

Actually without mountains there would be no plate tectonics and that means there would be no earthquakes at all.

And if mountains were magically removed in an instant worldwide earthquakes would be caused, but for that to happen mountains must've existed at first, so the cause of the earthquakes would have mountains involved.

So, Allah could've not created mountains and there would be no earthquakes at all. But he decided to create mountains to protect against earthquakes that wouldn't exist if mountains (plate tectonics) didn't exist?

Regarding embryology I'll just send you links debunking them. Also, the Qur'an is very very vague, many words have several meanings and can easily be manipulated in order to go hand in hand with science and such. 
Also, foetuses from misscarriages could be studied, just a heads up. And Al-alaq is a name for a surah and it doesn't mean leech like clot according to Wikipedia it can mean the following: 
The Clinging Form, The Clinging-Clot, The Clot, The Germ-Cell Basically what was meant was that it was clinging, like a leech etc, not that it was a leech. And what I say is meant by leech is supported because the Qur'an describes it as a clinging clot (like the ancient greeks did) and what is clinging? A leech is. So it most likely wasn't meant to describe the embryology itself but "what" it does.

Lastly, you know when in translations there are parathensis (with words in them), they words in them can freely be added by muslims to clarify what they mean, and in doing so they can and I've seen them do put a word in there to clarify what is meant by a word but in some instances that is actually not what is meant by the word, so translations can be easily manipulated and the arabic version is vague.
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Best Qur'an? - by deleteduser12345 - June 19, 2016 at 7:29 am
RE: Best Qur'an? - by madog - June 19, 2016 at 7:42 am
RE: Best Qur'an? - by abaris - June 19, 2016 at 7:58 am
RE: Best Qur'an? - by deleteduser12345 - June 19, 2016 at 8:36 am
RE: Best Qur'an? - by madog - June 19, 2016 at 8:49 am
RE: Best Qur'an? - by abaris - June 19, 2016 at 9:05 am
RE: Best Qur'an? - by madog - June 19, 2016 at 9:17 am
RE: Best Qur'an? - by abaris - June 19, 2016 at 9:39 am
RE: Best Qur'an? - by madog - June 19, 2016 at 10:24 am
RE: Best Qur'an? - by abaris - June 19, 2016 at 10:29 am
RE: Best Qur'an? - by madog - June 19, 2016 at 11:01 am
RE: Best Qur'an? - by abaris - June 19, 2016 at 11:07 am
RE: Best Qur'an? - by madog - June 19, 2016 at 11:10 am
RE: Best Qur'an? - by The Grand Nudger - June 19, 2016 at 8:47 am
RE: Best Qur'an? - by deleteduser12345 - June 19, 2016 at 8:57 am
RE: Best Qur'an? - by The Grand Nudger - June 19, 2016 at 8:59 am
RE: Best Qur'an? - by abaris - June 19, 2016 at 11:11 am
RE: Best Qur'an? - by madog - June 19, 2016 at 11:27 am
RE: Best Qur'an? - by abaris - June 19, 2016 at 11:31 am
RE: Best Qur'an? - by madog - June 19, 2016 at 11:42 am
RE: Best Qur'an? - by abaris - June 19, 2016 at 11:58 am
RE: Best Qur'an? - by madog - June 19, 2016 at 12:23 pm
RE: Best Qur'an? - by abaris - June 19, 2016 at 12:30 pm
RE: Best Qur'an? - by madog - June 19, 2016 at 12:48 pm
RE: Best Qur'an? - by abaris - June 19, 2016 at 12:53 pm
RE: Best Qur'an? - by madog - June 19, 2016 at 12:57 pm
RE: Best Qur'an? - by paulpablo - June 19, 2016 at 12:57 pm
RE: Best Qur'an? - by paulpablo - June 19, 2016 at 11:59 am
RE: Best Qur'an? - by abaris - June 19, 2016 at 12:02 pm
RE: Best Qur'an? - by paulpablo - June 19, 2016 at 12:26 pm
RE: Best Qur'an? - by Wyrd of Gawd - June 20, 2016 at 3:15 am
RE: Best Qur'an? - by ReptilianPeon - June 20, 2016 at 4:01 am
RE: Best Qur'an? - by Sheed1980 - July 11, 2016 at 3:19 pm
RE: Best Qur'an? - by deleteduser12345 - July 11, 2016 at 4:01 pm
RE: Best Qur'an? - by Sheed1980 - July 11, 2016 at 7:16 pm
RE: Best Qur'an? - by deleteduser12345 - July 12, 2016 at 4:26 pm
RE: Best Qur'an? - by Sheed1980 - July 13, 2016 at 7:40 am
RE: Best Qur'an? - by deleteduser12345 - July 13, 2016 at 9:38 am
RE: Best Qur'an? - by Sheed1980 - July 13, 2016 at 12:11 pm
RE: Best Qur'an? - by deleteduser12345 - July 13, 2016 at 2:11 pm
RE: Best Qur'an? - by Sheed1980 - July 13, 2016 at 3:05 pm
RE: Best Qur'an? - by deleteduser12345 - July 13, 2016 at 3:14 pm
RE: Best Qur'an? - by Sheed1980 - July 13, 2016 at 9:54 pm
RE: Best Qur'an? - by deleteduser12345 - July 14, 2016 at 3:36 am
RE: Best Qur'an? - by Sheed1980 - July 14, 2016 at 12:05 pm
RE: Best Qur'an? - by deleteduser12345 - July 14, 2016 at 12:21 pm
RE: Best Qur'an? - by Sheed1980 - July 14, 2016 at 1:38 pm
RE: Best Qur'an? - by deleteduser12345 - July 14, 2016 at 1:49 pm
RE: Best Qur'an? - by Sheed1980 - July 14, 2016 at 2:21 pm
RE: Best Qur'an? - by deleteduser12345 - July 14, 2016 at 3:20 pm
RE: Best Qur'an? - by Sheed1980 - July 14, 2016 at 3:39 pm
RE: Best Qur'an? - by deleteduser12345 - July 14, 2016 at 3:45 pm
RE: Best Qur'an? - by Sheed1980 - July 14, 2016 at 4:32 pm
RE: Best Qur'an? - by deleteduser12345 - July 14, 2016 at 4:38 pm
RE: Best Qur'an? - by CapnAwesome - July 14, 2016 at 12:22 pm
RE: Best Qur'an? - by deleteduser12345 - July 14, 2016 at 12:29 pm
RE: Best Qur'an? - by Sheed1980 - July 14, 2016 at 12:29 pm
RE: Best Qur'an? - by deleteduser12345 - July 14, 2016 at 12:32 pm
RE: Best Qur'an? - by Sheed1980 - July 14, 2016 at 1:45 pm
RE: Best Qur'an? - by deleteduser12345 - July 14, 2016 at 1:53 pm
RE: Best Qur'an? - by Sheed1980 - July 14, 2016 at 1:59 pm
RE: Best Qur'an? - by deleteduser12345 - July 14, 2016 at 2:05 pm
RE: Best Qur'an? - by Sheed1980 - July 14, 2016 at 2:57 pm
RE: Best Qur'an? - by deleteduser12345 - July 14, 2016 at 3:21 pm
RE: Best Qur'an? - by Sheed1980 - July 14, 2016 at 3:34 pm
RE: Best Qur'an? - by CapnAwesome - July 14, 2016 at 12:35 pm
RE: Best Qur'an? - by Sheed1980 - July 14, 2016 at 1:44 pm
RE: Best Qur'an? - by CapnAwesome - July 15, 2016 at 12:27 pm
RE: Best Qur'an? - by Sheed1980 - July 18, 2016 at 6:35 pm
RE: Best Qur'an? - by CapnAwesome - July 18, 2016 at 10:57 pm
RE: Best Qur'an? - by Sheed1980 - July 20, 2016 at 12:49 pm
RE: Best Qur'an? - by CapnAwesome - July 20, 2016 at 12:57 pm
RE: Best Qur'an? - by Sheed1980 - July 20, 2016 at 6:47 pm
RE: Best Qur'an? - by Sheed1980 - July 11, 2016 at 3:12 pm
RE: Best Qur'an? - by ReptilianPeon - July 12, 2016 at 1:49 am
RE: Best Qur'an? - by account_inactive - July 12, 2016 at 1:51 am
RE: Best Qur'an? - by MyGLeonTrotsky - July 12, 2016 at 9:29 pm
RE: Best Qur'an? - by robvalue - July 13, 2016 at 2:31 am
RE: Best Qur'an? - by ReptilianPeon - July 13, 2016 at 8:27 am
RE: Best Qur'an? - by WinterHold - July 13, 2016 at 10:45 pm
RE: Best Qur'an? - by deleteduser12345 - July 14, 2016 at 3:30 am
RE: Best Qur'an? - by WinterHold - July 14, 2016 at 6:45 am
RE: Best Qur'an? - by deleteduser12345 - July 14, 2016 at 10:28 am
RE: Best Qur'an? - by CapnAwesome - July 13, 2016 at 11:02 pm
RE: Best Qur'an? - by account_inactive - July 13, 2016 at 11:38 pm
RE: Best Qur'an? - by WinterHold - July 14, 2016 at 6:17 pm
RE: Best Qur'an? - by CapnAwesome - July 15, 2016 at 12:34 pm
RE: Best Qur'an? - by The Valkyrie - July 13, 2016 at 11:58 pm
RE: Best Qur'an? - by robvalue - July 14, 2016 at 4:16 am
RE: Best Qur'an? - by deleteduser12345 - July 14, 2016 at 5:34 am
RE: Best Qur'an? - by The Grand Nudger - July 14, 2016 at 10:11 am
RE: Best Qur'an? - by The Grand Nudger - July 14, 2016 at 12:07 pm
RE: Best Qur'an? - by The Grand Nudger - July 14, 2016 at 12:50 pm
RE: Best Qur'an? - by robvalue - July 14, 2016 at 2:02 pm
RE: Best Qur'an? - by The Grand Nudger - July 14, 2016 at 3:11 pm
RE: Best Qur'an? - by ukatheist - July 14, 2016 at 3:28 pm
RE: Best Qur'an? - by deleteduser12345 - July 14, 2016 at 3:31 pm
RE: Best Qur'an? - by ukatheist - July 14, 2016 at 3:56 pm
RE: Best Qur'an? - by Sheed1980 - July 14, 2016 at 4:31 pm
RE: Best Qur'an? - by ReptilianPeon - July 14, 2016 at 7:22 pm
RE: Best Qur'an? - by deleteduser12345 - July 14, 2016 at 8:15 pm
RE: Best Qur'an? - by WinterHold - July 14, 2016 at 11:09 pm
RE: Best Qur'an? - by The Grand Nudger - July 15, 2016 at 1:33 am
RE: Best Qur'an? - by WinterHold - July 15, 2016 at 4:45 pm
RE: Best Qur'an? - by ReptilianPeon - July 15, 2016 at 8:37 am
RE: Best Qur'an? - by robvalue - July 15, 2016 at 12:43 pm
RE: Best Qur'an? - by The Grand Nudger - July 15, 2016 at 4:58 pm
RE: Best Qur'an? - by WinterHold - July 16, 2016 at 9:47 am
RE: Best Qur'an? - by ReptilianPeon - July 15, 2016 at 7:05 pm
RE: Best Qur'an? - by The Grand Nudger - July 18, 2016 at 6:39 pm
RE: Best Qur'an? - by robvalue - July 19, 2016 at 12:48 am
RE: Best Qur'an? - by Cecelia - July 19, 2016 at 12:50 am
RE: Best Qur'an? - by robvalue - July 19, 2016 at 1:19 am
RE: Best Qur'an? - by The Grand Nudger - July 20, 2016 at 7:05 pm

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