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Is There a Difference Between Trusting Scientists and Trusting Preachers?

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RE: Is There a Difference Between Trusting Scientists and Trusting Preachers?

July 14, 2016 at 11:09 am

(July 14, 2016 at 10:57 am)madog Wrote:
(July 14, 2016 at 10:46 am)SteveII Wrote: Then you fail to understand my position. A scientific fact will not conflict with religion because religion does not make scientific fact claims. If a person holds religious beliefs that are opposed to scientific fact, then they are really not true religious beliefs (perhaps a god-of-the-gaps belief) and should be discarded.

OK, are you saying you don't believe in a virgin birth? a man rising from the dead? to name just two religious beliefs ...

The reason I ask is by your statement a religious person that does believe in such things as above do not have "true religious beliefs" ...

It is not a scientific fact that there cannot be supernatural causes to natural events. Not even close. Science cannot even comment on it.

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