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Leaving christianity, a bit of my story
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RE: Leaving christianity, a bit of my story
(July 14, 2016 at 7:02 pm)Lek Wrote:
(July 14, 2016 at 5:41 pm)Crossless1 Wrote: Two things with regard to the parts I bolded: First, yeah, no kidding you shouldn't teach religion to children who haven't reached the age of reason, but why does 'God' get a pass? Oh wait, it has something to do with them not having reached the age of reason, no? Get 'em while they're young and believe in things like invisible friends . . . is that the angle?
Religion is a complicated subject and not easy to comprehend, even for adults.  The concept of God is a simple concept to grasp.  

Quote:Second, in what possible sense is the alleged truth of Christianity similar to a principle that is not universally shared (e.g., racism is bad)? Yours is the religion supposedly grounded in historical 'fact'. You either have the evidentiary goods or you don't. While you're sharing this 'truth' with your kids, are you making any effort to expose them to the actual scholarly consensus on what is established fact versus what is merely claimed, or are you willing to queer the 'evidence' you present to them?

The concepts of christianity are not universally accepted and the concepts of racism are not universally accepted.

You don't even know what evidence I accept.  Maybe I accept much of the same evidence that you do.  Secondly, I've found that there is very little consensus among scholars.  Thirdly, I'm honest with my kids.

Religion is complicated but 'God' is a simple concept to grasp? Really? Ok, explain 'God' to me like I'm a five year old without resorting to "The Bible says . . . ", some philosophical argument that presumably would also be too sophisticated for a child to grasp, or some bad analogy e.g. "think about how much Daddy loves you; now think about how much God our Heavenly father loves all of us, his children".

As for the Christianity/racism thing, I'm still not seeing it. In the case of racists, they may base their views on discredited notions of race and 'inherent' characteristics supposedly held by all members of the "race"; they may do so on the basis of crime statistics that may or may not be accurate or may be presented in a skewed manner; they may unfairly generalize about an entire group based on one bad experience they had with one person or small group of people; it could be good old-fashioned xenophobia, etc. In each case, the belief is based on faulty reasoning, lack of good research, or fear.

The "concepts" of Christianity, on the other hand, are all based on un-evidenced entities (a god, angels, a devil) and documents that make outrageous claims that aren't independently attested outside the holy book itself. In lieu of compelling evidence that meet minimal standards of good intellectual hygiene, rejecting the claims without further corroboration is the sensible position.
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Leaving christianity, a bit of my story - by Lucifer - July 9, 2016 at 3:16 pm
RE: Leaving christianity, a bit of my story - by Drich - July 11, 2016 at 8:57 am
RE: Leaving christianity, a bit of my story - by SteveII - July 11, 2016 at 10:43 am
RE: Leaving christianity, a bit of my story - by Drich - July 11, 2016 at 11:07 am
RE: Leaving christianity, a bit of my story - by Lucifer - July 11, 2016 at 11:20 am
RE: Leaving christianity, a bit of my story - by SteveII - July 11, 2016 at 12:45 pm
RE: Leaving christianity, a bit of my story - by Lucifer - July 11, 2016 at 12:55 pm
RE: Leaving christianity, a bit of my story - by RozKek - July 11, 2016 at 2:33 pm
RE: Leaving christianity, a bit of my story - by Drich - July 12, 2016 at 11:54 am
RE: Leaving christianity, a bit of my story - by Lek - July 10, 2016 at 12:20 pm
RE: Leaving christianity, a bit of my story - by Lucifer - July 11, 2016 at 10:30 am
RE: Leaving christianity, a bit of my story - by KevinM1 - July 11, 2016 at 12:33 pm
RE: Leaving christianity, a bit of my story - by Lucifer - July 11, 2016 at 12:40 pm
RE: Leaving christianity, a bit of my story - by Lek - July 11, 2016 at 5:34 pm
RE: Leaving christianity, a bit of my story - by Lucifer - July 12, 2016 at 12:38 pm
RE: Leaving christianity, a bit of my story - by robvalue - July 12, 2016 at 12:41 pm
RE: Leaving christianity, a bit of my story - by Drich - July 12, 2016 at 4:28 pm
RE: Leaving christianity, a bit of my story - by Lek - July 14, 2016 at 3:39 pm
RE: Leaving christianity, a bit of my story - by Lek - July 14, 2016 at 4:47 pm
RE: Leaving christianity, a bit of my story - by Lek - July 14, 2016 at 7:02 pm
RE: Leaving christianity, a bit of my story - by Crossless1 - July 15, 2016 at 11:57 am
RE: Leaving christianity, a bit of my story - by Lek - July 15, 2016 at 11:27 am
RE: Leaving christianity, a bit of my story - by robvalue - July 15, 2016 at 12:51 pm
RE: Leaving christianity, a bit of my story - by Lek - July 15, 2016 at 4:16 pm
RE: Leaving christianity, a bit of my story - by Lek - July 15, 2016 at 6:20 pm
RE: Leaving christianity, a bit of my story - by Lek - July 15, 2016 at 8:17 pm

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