(July 15, 2016 at 11:27 am)Lek Wrote:(July 15, 2016 at 1:27 am)robvalue Wrote: The concept of god must be introduced before the age of reason? Why?
Again, isn't this just an admission that you need a brain incapable of properly assessing the subject matter? Otherwise, why can't it wait?
Same with prayer. Why? Do you fear a reasoned, thinking child will laugh at the idea? Because they likely will. I did.
Will God not be interested in a kid that hasn't had this stuff poured into their vulnerable brain? If so, maybe that tells you something.
We introduce our kids to good and bad before the age of reason. Why not introduce them to a good concept like God and prayer? It doesn't have anything to do with fear of how they will receive it. I believe you think the way you do because you think those are bad concepts. You're demonstrating your own bias in your theory.
I agree with you here.
But I call shenanigans on the things being presented.... The idea, that you shouldn't teach kids anything about something, until they are capable of a full understanding is ridiculous.
I remember watching a documentary about one of the church groups, that I think could be considered as indoctrinating children (turning them against parents as well, it was a little scary). But it stood out to me, because they had an atheist mother who was interviewed with her two small girls. What the mother said, sounded very good and reasonable; then it came to where she was talking about not teaching them either way, and leaving them to make their own choice. Like a dog preforming on command for a treat, the repeated back almost exactly what she had just said.... looking up at their mother for loving approval. It wasn't to the extreme of the subjects of the documentary, but I thought it was very noticeable.
I don't think that there is anything wrong with teaching a child the values and ideas that you hold dear. The question and I believe not an easy one to answer is when does that become indoctrination. I think that it is hard to pin down, because it depends on a number of variables, and perhaps not any one thing. I don't think that the difference between indoctrination and teaching is based on the subject though.