Sarah Palin offers thanks to Bush, not Obama, for death of Bin Laden

[DeistPaladin]

Not relevant. Bush using 9/11 as an excuse to enforce his will is another issue, it has fuck all to do with my point.

Wrong. It points out that Al Qaida and Bin Laden were never things Bush cared about. In fact, according to inside testimony from Gen. Clark, Bush was obsessed with Saddam leading to the very negligence that allowed 9/11 to happen on his watch.

Minimum effort? Declaring war on a sovereign nation because of it's associations with a terrorist group constitutes minimum effort? Well fuck me, I'd hate to think what you consider 'maximum effort'.

We declared war on a nation that was actively protecting Osama Bin Laden after giving them an ultimatum to turn him over. We had every right to do that. Unfortunately, Bush only sent in a small force, toppled the government and seemed to call that a day. Immediately afterwords, he was on record saying he "didn't know where Bin Laden was and didn't think about him." Maximum effort would have been something akin to our war in Iraq. Had Afghanistan been our sole focus, we could have crushed Al Qaida. Bush squandered that opportunity because he was obsessed with Saddam.

1. The did not know that bin laden was there, they believed it to be the case but this was never confirmed.

2. They did not just leave it to the anti-Taliban militia, it was orchestrated and backed by US and British special forces.

3. It was a meager 2 months after 9/11.

4. It was not Bush who called the ceasefire.

We had every reason to think so and Bush dropped the ball. Relying on the anti-Taliban at all was foolish. These warlords have a long history of shifting allegiances as it suits their needs. Obama was smart enough not to inform Pakistan, knowing that they've been playing both sides.

That's because he's not that important... Even Pelosi admitted as much, until there was political gain to be made from exaggerating the importance that is.

Actually he was and his killing is. Symbols are very important to his culture. Plus there's a treasure trove of information that we've doubtlessly also seized .

Red Herring. Osama was most likely already in Pakistan, renewed efforts in Afghanistan are not relevant.

The very reason that Al Qaida was able to regroup in Pakistan was because of our minimal efforts in Afghanistan. This was because Bush decided Saddam was more important as a priority.

Red Herring #2

See above.

Complete BS, they closed an office that had been dealing with it, he was not worth the resources.

But Bush's private little war in Iraq was?

Personally, I'd have gladly traded killing Saddam for killing OBL when Saddam was captured.

You think that if someone had told bush "Hey, Osama's in this bunker over here" he wouldn't have done anything?

You watch the video?