(May 4, 2011 at 9:21 pm)theVOID Wrote: Bush's obsession with Saddam lead to what exactly that allowed 9/11 to take place?To not take Al Qaida seriously and miss warning signs. The terrorists who struck on 9/11 were not some crack commando team, unstoppable once they swung into action. They bungled their way into success, made possible because Bush's attention was somewhere else.
Quote:And Bush going for Sadam was far from the only thing that he did in terms of using tragedy to further authority, such as your TSA 'expansions', the "Patriot act", Gitmo etc.Correct. Your point?
Quote:You had every right to do that?Yes. We were struck first and had the right to strike back. What part of that do you dispute?
When the Taliban refused to turn Bin Laden over to us, they declared their allegiance to those who attacked us. The Taliban became our enemy by their choice, not ours.
Quote:That "God given American right" huh?I see you've decided to lay on the melodrama. You know well you're not speaking to a Christian.
Quote:How many more civilians did you fuckers kill compared to Al Qaida?Certainly none on purpose, the way they did. We go to great lengths to be surgical in our strikes. If they had turned over Bin Laden, no one would have died.
Quote:All in the name of catching the Boogie man, someone of exaggerated significance to begin with.Tell that to the dead.
Quote:Yeah, not the best decision in retrospect. I guess he had assumed that the AT's power hunger would see them attempt to usurp the Taliban.At best, it indicates negligence on Bush's part.
Quote:And symbols are just as important to your culture, nothing like a bit of Osama killing to bolster a shaky re-election campaign.If this were all about re-election, we'd get this news in 2012.
Quote:And now you're blanket assuming there was a "treasure trove" of information? Based on what? There might have been, but asserting it is out of line.Based on the fact that we also seized hard drives, files and other information. Maybe there was only goat porn on them but I think it would be logical that the leader and founder of the organization had much more information stored there. I would be surprised otherwise.
Quote:Irrelevant - You claimed he 'officially gave up' That was false. Are you going to retract it?Hey, it sounds "official" to me but you're right, I should retract it. He never had any interest in catching Bin Laden to begin with. Whether this was because of negligence, an obsession with Saddam or a cynical belief that Bin Laden was more useful out there alive and scaring people than dead is something I can't say for sure.
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