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Live stream of Dem Convention.
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(July 29, 2016 at 8:55 am)Tiberius Wrote:
(July 29, 2016 at 12:36 am)Minimalist Wrote: Um, unless I am seriously in error, doesn't Massachusetts have a republicunt governor right now? 

Chickens.  Eggs.  And when to count them.

As I'm sure you know, there's a big difference between state and national elections. Massachusetts is a heavily liberal state when it comes to national elections, but we have a history of electing Republican governors (though they tend to be as left leaning as Republicans get).

That doesn't change the fact that our state senate and representatives are mostly Democrat, or that we haven't voted for a Republican in the presidential election since 1984. In the last 5 elections, the Democrat has obtained at least 59% of the vote.

Also, we're not the only state like this. California is a heavily liberal state, but elected Arnie as governor.

No actually there is not a difference, it does you no good to win national elections or congressional elections if your state is run by a majority you cant break the gridlock with. While there is some separation between state and federal, you still have state and federal having to work with each other. Our 36 year decline is a result of the GOP winning, most of the time on average, more Govornorships, more state majorities, which in turn has allowed them to draw the voting districts at a far higher rate. 

Progressives outside of the office of President, have sucked at long term local and state levels especially in midterms. We cant simply praise or condemn either Bernie or Hillary, neither can change things at a bold scale, if we don't put pressure on not only the president, but congress, and state Govornorships and state congresses as well as the local level. 

If we want Bernie's change, then it is more important to put Hillary in who would be much easier to move back to the left as compared to Trump, who would have a big enough majority to cause some very serious damage and turn back the clock. But even with putting her in, that alone is not enough, we still need to put a congress there that can push her back to the left as well as a congress she can work with without the obstruction, but that also applies to states too.
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RE: Live stream of Dem Convention. - by Tiberius - July 26, 2016 at 12:25 am
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