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Who's your favorite Dem candidate?
October 16, 2019 at 7:16 pm
(This post was last modified: October 16, 2019 at 7:20 pm by EgoDeath.)
I'm interested to know what you guys think. I really like Yang - but it looks like he doesn't have a chance in hell. That being said, I'd happily vote for Sanders. Not really crazy about any of the other candidates.
What do you guys think?
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Pardon me if I left a candidate out or put someone on the list that's dropped out already... I was sort of half watching the debates last night while getting shit done on the computer. Not to mention, it looks like it's gonna' be Warren or Biden... I'd be happy with either over Trump.
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RE: Who's your favorite Dem candidate?
October 16, 2019 at 7:50 pm
Barack Obama.
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RE: Who's your favorite Dem candidate?
October 16, 2019 at 8:05 pm
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(October 16, 2019 at 7:50 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Barack Obama.
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(October 16, 2019 at 7:16 pm)EgoDeath Wrote: I'm interested to know what you guys think. I really like Yang - but it looks like he doesn't have a chance in hell. That being said, I'd happily vote for Sanders. Not really crazy about any of the other candidates.
What do you guys think?
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Pardon me if I left a candidate out or put someone on the list that's dropped out already... I was sort of half watching the debates last night while getting shit done on the computer. Not to mention, it looks like it's gonna' be Warren or Biden... I'd be happy with either over Trump.
I think of the list, Biden would be the least bad candidate when one considers who is most likely to do lasting good in the current political reality.
In the context of a general election:
Sanders is a clueless ideologue of disaster to start with.
Warren has largely painted herself into the similarly untenable political tactical position as Sander.
Harris seems to be as thin skinned as and not a whole lot less conceited than trump.
Gabbard came across as a self promoter who won't stop short of seriously hurting the party's chances to cling on a little longer
This country is not color blind and Asian electorate is too small and fragmented for Yang to have any chance.
If trump isn't impeached and convicted by Next November all these 5 candidates would all help trump's chances for degrading this country for 4 more years.
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RE: Who's your favorite Dem candidate?
October 16, 2019 at 9:01 pm
I still like Sanders, but I also like Gabbard and Yang. Gabbard is anti war, so that's great. I believe Yang is running on mandatory basic income, which is nice. Warren is better than most, but I'm afraid she'll fall short like Obama did. Biden and Harris can take a hike, as far as I'm concerned. I don't remember enough about the others to have any opinion.
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RE: Who's your favorite Dem candidate?
October 16, 2019 at 9:07 pm
(October 16, 2019 at 7:50 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Barack Obama.
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RE: Who's your favorite Dem candidate?
October 16, 2019 at 9:22 pm
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Favorite: I keep wavering between Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren
Who is strongest against Trump: Biden
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RE: Who's your favorite Dem candidate?
October 16, 2019 at 9:32 pm
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I won’t say it outright, but I will say he bears a remarkable resemblance to Larry David.
Like it or not, there’s basically three main choices for the Democratic nominee that have any chance at the nomination, Biden has a depressingly long track record as a gaffe-spewing dinosaur whose politics still seem to be stuck in the Clinton years even as the party is moving far beyond it, and Elizabeth Warren, well, pushing a Cherokee Princess narrative on herself aside, the more I look at it, the more convinced I become that she’d just be a repeat of Hilary. She even had her own conservative phase, and an even longer one at that! Just compensate with a heaping dose of identity politics, and you get the strong impression that even if she wins the election by a wide margin, she’ll still lose. Just like Hilary. So you can see why I chose who I did.
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RE: Who's your favorite Dem candidate?
October 16, 2019 at 11:22 pm
Elizabeth Warren.
Can't stand Tulsi Gabbard, and not a fan of Joe Biden. Gabbard is an Assad-nut who defends Donald Trump at every given chance. I don't trust her on the issues one bit. Biden has no fucking clue what he's doing. He's the John Kerry of the 2020 election. Sure, he'd be better. But he's not really going to inspire me or most other people.
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RE: Who's your favorite Dem candidate?
October 17, 2019 at 12:51 am
It's Biden for me. He's no angel (none of us are) but he is a moderate which matches my preferences.
I will hold my nose and vote for who ever is running against Trump. I would vote for a homeless drunk living in a box under an overpass over Trump. But my preference is a moderate like Biden. Joe is a good and honorable man and of all the candidates, is my favorite.
I would love to see a woman President but I don't think we have a good field this time around. I think Hillary would have been great but I don't see any of the the current female candidates as compelling.
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RE: Who's your favorite Dem candidate?
October 17, 2019 at 1:20 am
(October 16, 2019 at 9:32 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: I won’t say it outright, but I will say he bears a remarkable resemblance to Larry David.
Like it or not, there’s basically three main choices for the Democratic nominee that have any chance at the nomination, Biden has a depressingly long track record as a gaffe-spewing dinosaur whose politics still seem to be stuck in the Clinton years even as the party is moving far beyond it, and Elizabeth Warren, well, pushing a Cherokee Princess narrative on herself aside, the more I look at it, the more convinced I become that she’d just be a repeat of Hilary. She even had her own conservative phase, and an even longer one at that! Just compensate with a heaping dose of identity politics, and you get the strong impression that even if she wins the election by a wide margin, she’ll still lose. Just like Hilary. So you can see why I chose who I did.
So simply because Elizabeth Warren is a woman you charge her with 'identity politics'. Strange how that works.
Bernie Sanders is too old. He might not even survive to the election, in which case we're left with whoever he chose for Vice President. And if we're being honest, Bernie doesn't hire the best people. Especially if we look at the sexual harassment claims and how they were treated in the last primaries. I doubt that Bernie himself was aware, but the people he hired no doubt WERE aware. And they failed miserably. Not to mention the fact that they paid female employees at HIGHER positions less money, and I find it difficult to believe that Sanders is able to pick the right people, even if he has good ideas and a good record himself. And a number of his supporters are quite worrisome.
Elizabeth Warren on the other hand has led by example when it comes to Equal Pay. Her staffers are paid equally, regardless of their gender.
The fact that she USED to be a Republican is irrelevant. Donald Trump used to be a Democrat. He donated to Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton -- and is good friends with Bill Clinton. So I'm not sure why that argument really flies here.
It really is telling though, that Sanders supporters resort to this whole "Identity Politics" thing, which is a completely right-wing talking point. Especially when it comes to FEMALE candidates.
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