RE: Is God always "just"?
May 6, 2011 at 7:09 pm
(This post was last modified: May 6, 2011 at 7:29 pm by Interzone.)
(May 6, 2011 at 4:19 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Let me assume that you're actually being serious, and not deliberately parading your ignorance all over our faces.
Canard #1: God is perfectly just. Man made morality is arbitrary. Those are standard definitions. So people basing moral standards on a fixed perfection are moral relativists??? Wow!
If God is perfectly "just," you ARE accepting my first definition. Your concept of "Perfect" isn't grounded in anything except God, and just reiterates my point. His own hypocrisy (as I clearly demonstrated) does away with any meaningful definition of "fixed perfection." Nonetheless, let us accept your definition of God. I will REPEAT my question.
Was it perfectly just for God to order the killing all Amalekites except for their virgins?
Answer this, if you're going to bother replying.
Quote:Canard #2: If God is just and cannot be unjust, this is not a contradiction of omnipotence. It's a contradiction of logic.
Your God IS a contradiction of logic
hock: Hehehe, not my problem. I don't go parade around claiming that God is both all-powerful and all-good. Both are utterly meaningless terms. The old omnipotence paradox: can God create a stone so heavy that he cannot lift it? Quote:There is no issue with God determining what is and is not just. Justice being arbitrary would only be a problem if the arbiter was fallible; of course God is infallible so there really is no logical issue here. I’d rather have the perfect Creator of all things determining Justice for me than a bunch of fallible men whose hearts are dead in sin.
You didn't say anything that I didn't say. God is infallible, so whatever he says must be just! Guess what, as I said in my original post, I'll ACCEPT that definition. So... logically following, IF god orders you to rape little children, would you say that raping little children is JUST?
Simple yes or no question.
