Agnostics

[bennyboy]

I just think your views are incredibly simplistic, add no meaning whatsoever, and to think you're original because of them is ridiculous.

I didn't say I was original. I said I thought the idea of a conditional belief was original enough to be worth a few posts of discussion. I used an analogy to a common physics problem to draw a parallel. These are not ideas normally that come up in a discussion about agnosticism, as far as I know, and I wanted to see if anyone thought there was any merit to them.

I shouldn't have called you stupid or uneducated though(now please point me to where I did). Instead I should've said(like I think I said), that your views are the result of a bad education and that you espouse great stupidity with every post on the matter.

. . . and we're off to the races again. I tried to take the high road and keep it civil, but you just couldn't let it go. I was perfectly happy pressing the "reset" button and either walking away or awaiting some fresh new angle to pop up that would be worth discussing.

If you think that counts as insults, that's too bad, benny, because I'm not going to sugarcoat reality because of your definition of insults(nor anyone else's for that matter). I agree with not insulting people(you're ugly, or too shart, or too fat, etc), but insulting ideas people hold is perfectly ok. Ideas merit no respect whatsoever. I'm sorry you can't differentiate between yourself and the ideas you agree with, but that's an incredibly infantile thing to do - notice here, again, I'm saying the idea of doing it is infantile, not you necessarily. You see, a person is incredibly multifaceted, just because you espouse stupidity on this issue, in my view, doesn't mean I won't find you brilliant on a wholly different issue. Every single person is incredibly complex and has tens of sides to them. Not one thing should define them, nor should they identify with any one thing about them too much - to the point where criticism of an idea affects them personally.

Look, we're talking about how people identify with regard to the God issue, an issue important enough to have a website, hundreds of threads, and many thousands of comments about it. If you think that calling a person's ideas about his self-identification stupid is meaningfully different than calling the person himself stupid, you're. . . well, do I really need to say it?

Again, I don't care much if you are insulting. Members here have insulted me, many much more vehemently than you, including at least a few people in this thread. The problem with you is that you have nothing interesting or useful to say to me. I read your posts looking for even the faintest sign of creative thinking, and see nothing but a stereotype of the most common ideas found in the AF threads on this issue and others. Nor are you witty, either in your expression of your ideas or in your insults. Even a decently-constructed cat meme would be more intellectually stimulating than the watching-paint-dry experience of you flogging your etymological dead horse for 20 pages.

So look, you can insult me all you want. I hereby grant you a pass to flame me with every hostile turd that can manage to percolate into your black-and-white-thinking digital robot brain. I ask only one thing-- say something FUCKING INTERESTING.