RE: the late Jade Goody
April 8, 2009 at 6:26 am
(This post was last modified: April 8, 2009 at 6:36 am by Rob.)
(April 7, 2009 at 9:35 pm)Tiberius Wrote:Quote:Fundamentalist Muslims can voice their ill founded objections to the armed forces but a woman cant call another woman a name in jest which would be acceptable if from another person with a similar skin pigmentation? This just seems wrong to me.Nice misrepresentation of my point there. I never stated fundamentalist muslims could voice their ill founded objections to the armed forces (and I have no idea why you would even bring that up). No hate speech should be tolerated.
Well I wasn't actually talking about you in that quote but the authorities who stood and did nothing to stop the protest. You can't really label all hate speech as wrong as you did there since hate speech is such a subjective form of speech. If you say something (anything) in a public place large enough someone is bound to be offended. Should such occurrences be labelled as hate speech because one person in a million takes offence? and if not, how many people need to take offence? Now what if its theists and atheists instead. I've offended a few people by pointing out fallacies in their logic. I wasn't trying to cause offence but offence was caused. Was that hate speech? The same people would often reply to me calling me all sorts of offensive names, I did not take offence. Was this hate speech? If it wasn't, would it have been hate speech if I had been offended?
Jade's hate speech was apparently the type uttered innocently and taken with no offence. (at least by those involved)
The muslims hate speech was uttered hatefully and was rightly taken as offensive.
Why is it that Jade's should demand an apology and the muslims should not?
I'm just trying to point out that we have a mixed standard when it comes to things like freedom of speech in England.
(April 8, 2009 at 5:55 am)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: I admit I had heard of her, I despised her and everything about her but nevertheless I can't fault her for what she has done ... my irritation is at the media for constantly putting this cheap-arsed shit on TV and in magazines, for playing down to our most base characteristics and not even trying to show that we are capable of so much more. And for those who somehow manage to except it ... "The Apprentice" is just reality TV for fucking snobs!
True as that is, since good scripted television shows are more expensive to produce I doubt we'll see much improvement whilst in the recession.
Hoi Zaeme.
