RE: If free will was not real
August 4, 2016 at 6:54 pm
(This post was last modified: August 4, 2016 at 7:00 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(August 4, 2016 at 6:48 pm)bennyboy Wrote: Okay, so just because something occurs inside the body doesn't make it of the self. Agreed?Agreed.
Quote:Well, in order to determine if an individual agent has free will, we first have to establish what an individual agent IS. Let me put it this way, I'd say that free will is as real as the self.Agreed.
Quote:So what's the self? It probably doesn't include the leg, since if you lose your leg, you still are yourself. As for will-- yes, the will is damaged in this case, since the intent cannot be manifested as movement, and that is exactly how I define will-- it is the capacity to manifest intent as behavior.
The will is not damaged. The ability to carry out that will, in that singular expression, is damaged. Not that you need damage for this particular distinction to express itself. No matter how hard I will it....I cannot fly. The subject in your example could manifest intent as behavior, particularly the urge to move his leg and fuck a goat - all manner of ways. My will is no more damaged by my inability to fly than the will of the goatfucker is damaged by being unable to move his leg. I'll suggest again that this example is uninformative. Damaged, undamaged, it doesn't tell us anything about free will either way, even as you define it.
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