(August 10, 2016 at 1:48 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: 1. You're correct, my opinion. With out proof or evidence, in my world this is a delusion. A delusion accepted in our current society, so far. The numbers say that it is on it's way out.
2. Bullshit. If it was only about change it could be change for the worse. For some it is. How many people have developed guilt trips over not living up to the "being a good person" criteria in the delusion. If everyone experienced change for the worse, it would be done. Feel for the better and change for the better are basically the same.
3. Within a particular religious belief, you (anyone) is/are not objective. You assigning "more or less" has no value except to you and your herd. I'm sure the hindus (for example) believe that they are "more" than you.
1. Again, your opinion. Evangelical Christianity has decreased by 0.9% in 7 years in the US. Is that even the margin of error? Probably not cause for celebration. Numbers are growing worldwide.
2. Feel better is different than a change in character, self-worth, conduct, outlook, and hope. You are trying to minimize the change to fit your argument. As I mentioned in my longer post a page back, can you generate that kind of change with a non-religious experience? If so, what? If not, why not?
3. You are confusing my point. "...love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control" as well as hope is subjective but a change in a person to these qualities is objectively better than not.
