(May 9, 2011 at 11:00 pm)ruhollah Wrote: If you think that it's okay for a young mother to struggle like this, then I pity you.
Don't waste your pity. I think people make their own choices. These mothers you are so concerned about made a choice to get pregnant, just as much as the men who abandon them. Let us not forget that plenty of fathers have to raise children alone as well.
(May 9, 2011 at 11:00 pm)ruhollah Wrote: You obviously find it convenient to make use of stereotypical statements to make a point.
That is an interesting remark to make after the heaps of stereotypes you just spewed.
(May 9, 2011 at 11:00 pm)ruhollah Wrote: Do you know what country invented human's right? In particular the right to work for all humans.
No country "invented" human rights or the right to work for all humans. That has been a concept since the dawn of humanity. The problem is, religion and laws derived from religion suppressed women. Now, think about that before you make some random claim that a Muslim country "invented" the right to work. I will concede that Iraq was once a very advanced country, but I do believe that was before the "invention" of Islam.
(May 9, 2011 at 11:00 pm)ruhollah Wrote: I didn't say adoption is bad. In fact it is much better than a child being an orphan raised by a social institution. However the problem is these kids feel that something is wrong with them and that is why their parents left them. Or they feel jealous of other kids with parents. These kind of feelings can be used to justify crimes they commit when they are older.
I will not argue that being adopted is often hard for people to come to terms with. However, that has nothing to do with the merit of a society, which was the initial point you were trying to make. If you can produce concrete statistics that say adopted kids commit more crimes and that there are more adopted kids in the U.S. than anywhere else, then I might say this point has a place in this discussion. For now, it really does not.
(May 9, 2011 at 11:00 pm)ruhollah Wrote: Can you tell me more about this friend of yours. If she is divorce then it is different than the single-mother situation I discussed above. Is she getting child support? Is she taking out loans for med school?
She is my sister, so no, I will not tell you more about her. I will say that being divorced is no different from being a single mother or father in many cases. Child support is irrelevant, given the fact that, married or not, women get child support for children when the father is alive and able to be found. Loans are irrelevant as well, given that they are loans and not welfare. Single women, divorced women and women without children can all get these kinds of loans. They all have to pay them back.