(May 9, 2011 at 11:57 pm)ruhollah Wrote: What are you talking about??? What about the slave trades the Europeans were conducting. While African tribes are being hunted down in their homeland Africa, they were treated with respect and gratitude in the Muslim nations.
You are reacting to things I did not say. Did I say slave trades never happened and that only Europeans were nice while Muslims are horrible? Allow me to clear something up. I am not against Islam or Christianity. I am against people who hurt other people and deny them freedom for selfish reasons.
(May 9, 2011 at 11:57 pm)ruhollah Wrote: Also, if you study history you would find that there was indeed a nation that invented human rights and was ahead of its time compared to the nations in Europe.
Incidentally, I do study history. What you need to do is look at the entirety of human history. Women working is no construct of a single society. It is a concept that has existed since the dawn of man. Do you think cave women sat in their caves all day doing nothing? Just because one country (you should probably be clear of which country you speak) was further ahead than all European countries, at some point, does not mean that they "invented" human rights. If human rights is even a tangible thing, it is impossible to invent. The very essence of human rights is that they are innate.
(May 9, 2011 at 11:57 pm)ruhollah Wrote: ts logic, however a simple google search can bring up news article on such studies:
It is not logic. It is speculation.
(May 9, 2011 at 11:57 pm)ruhollah Wrote: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...crime.html
http://www.newser.com/story/85412/after-...raits.html
and finally this site should have loads of stats
http://www.marriagedebate.com/up.php
None of these sites quotes a study. Furthermore, none of these sites make a comparison between foster or adopted children and children of married couples. You first source was a politician. Your second source actually had statistics, but they made no helpful comparisons and your last source is the site of some lady who is overly concerned with other people's business.
(May 9, 2011 at 11:57 pm)ruhollah Wrote: But sometimes the father is alive and denys the child is theirs, or the mother doesn't know who the child is (one-night stand), or she was drunk when the incident happened. Teenage pregnancy is a huge problem in US and the western nations.
If the father is alive and denies the child is his, the court will order a DNA test. If the mother does not know who the father is, then that is her problem. She is not a victim if she was not raped.
(May 9, 2011 at 11:57 pm)ruhollah Wrote: Now speaking of the loans, the reason I asked is because that is the only way I can see a young single parent being able to afford living costs for their children while going to school with no help of child-support from the father. Divorced children at least get support from both parents, illegitimate do not. Do you get me?
Do you imagine it is impossible for a woman to have money of her own? That is not the only way. Don't be absurd.
(May 9, 2011 at 11:57 pm)ruhollah Wrote: And so when a mother goes for a loan that is extra burden on her now...and some mothers are strong and can do it, but the sad truth is some can't and need the support of their own parents.
No, she can get a better paying job with the right education. It is only a burden if she drops out or chooses the wrong education path.
(May 9, 2011 at 11:57 pm)ruhollah Wrote: This in turn becomes a burden on them because they have to cut back on their retirement fund just so their grandchild can grow up without being malnourished. It triggers anger and depression throughout the whole family. This can be solved by marriage or some form of contract so both parties take responsibility on whatever outcome.
Dude, marriage is not the savior of all things parental. Some couples are better off not marrying. You really think that a couple that hates each other should get married in spite of this because of a child? You think that is better for the child? That is absolutely ridiculous. Even a contract is ridiculous. These are personal matters that should be dealt with personally by the parties involved.