(August 15, 2016 at 3:17 pm)Esquilax Wrote:You must be joking, religious have been the reason for humans' grouping into larger city-state/tribes since the dawn of civilization. They all rise and they all fall....and look what time it is. People need a unifying vision and context for their lives. Religions have provided that for better and worse.(August 15, 2016 at 2:19 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: Roses have thorns. Religion has both built and destroyed civilization. The early city states that began to unify humanity used religion to do so. For better or worse.
I object to this phrasing. Religion doesn't build anything. All it does is take credit for natural human creative instincts, at best it provides a (sufficient, but by no means necessary) backdrop against which those drives take shape, but to credit religion for the works that result, when in fact it's just a base parasite, is wildly inaccurate.
All the good that religion does, does not require religion. And yet a vast majority of the bad that religion does, is spurred on exclusively or in large part by religion. Think about that.
Quote:What I'm saying is, humanity will never be rid of religion and the fight against it is never ending. To continue fighting against it is futile in the extreme. It cannot be stopped, BUT, as we've seen time and time again, it can be steered to the benefit of humans or it's detriment.
So... how could you possibly have determined this?
Determine what? That it's better to push a giant rolling boulder from the side rather than stand directly in front and expect to stop it?
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