Not to mention that even though the Pinto was a bad design, overall it got you where you wanted to go. The same can't be said for religion.

(August 15, 2016 at 4:31 am)Arkilogue Wrote:

(August 15, 2016 at 3:11 am)Atheist_BG Wrote: https://www.ghanastar.com/africa-news/wo...a-miracle/

If anyone still wonders whether religion should be forbidden or not, here's a fresh example why it should be. Such a stupidity would not be possible if there were no religion. I'm pretty sure that idiot won't be charged with murder and the church will just cover the whole story and blame it on their god or on the devil until the next victim of religion.

So the aberrant actions of one form of religion abnegate all other and possible forms?

Should we base the future development and creation of all road vehicles based on the crash performance of the Pinto?

I was gonna reply to that but it seems the users who posted after me did it even better than I would.

Silly.  This is like saying that when a doctor performs an unnecessary surgery and kills someone, that medicine kills people and it should be abolished.  This guy should be tried for murder.

(August 15, 2016 at 10:53 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:

(August 15, 2016 at 4:31 am)Arkilogue Wrote: So the aberrant actions of one form of religion abnegate all other and possible forms?

Should we base the future development and creation of all road vehicles based on the crash performance of the Pinto?

It does tend to take the blush off the rose when one finds stories of tragedy associated with multiple religions, from the horrors of Christianity in Africa, to the oppressive effects of Hinduism in India, to the bigoted outrages occurring in Myanmar.  Call it an induction.

Roses have thorns. Religion has both built and destroyed civilization. The early city states that began to unify humanity used religion to do so. For better or worse.

What I'm saying is, humanity will never be rid of religion and the fight against it is never ending. To continue fighting against it is futile in the extreme. It cannot be stopped, BUT, as we've seen time and time again, it can be steered to the benefit of humans or it's detriment.

When I saw the title I thought it's going to be about that boy that was bullied by everybody in catholic school




Well what do you expect from people that cling to book (Bible) that tells them world is flat, satyrs are real and of course magic tricks apparently prove God's existence. I mean just imagine what abhorrent things schools like that teach kids.

(August 15, 2016 at 2:19 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: Roses have thorns.  Religion has both built and destroyed civilization. The early city states that began to unify humanity used religion to do so.  For better or worse.

I object to this phrasing. Religion doesn't build anything. All it does is take credit for natural human creative instincts, at best it provides a (sufficient, but by no means necessary) backdrop against which those drives take shape, but to credit religion for the works that result, when in fact it's just a base parasite, is wildly inaccurate.

All the good that religion does, does not require religion. And yet a vast majority of the bad that religion does, is spurred on exclusively or in large part by religion. Think about that.

Quote:What I'm saying is, humanity will never be rid of religion and the fight against it is never ending. To continue fighting against it is futile in the extreme. It cannot be stopped, BUT, as we've seen time and time again, it can be steered to the benefit of humans or it's detriment.

So... how could you possibly have determined this?

(August 15, 2016 at 3:11 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: When I saw the title I thought it's going to be about that boy that was bullied by everybody in catholic school
[video=.youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyLSGL9djdE[/video]

Well what do you expect from people that cling to book (Bible) that tells them world is flat, satyrs are real and of course magic tricks apparently prove God's existence. I mean just imagine what abhorrent things schools like that teach kids.

If you ask them, they have done something - they have prayed for the boy...
There are many examples of why religion kills but I have the feeling we don't hear about the most of them.

(August 15, 2016 at 3:17 pm)Esquilax Wrote:

(August 15, 2016 at 2:19 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: Roses have thorns.  Religion has both built and destroyed civilization. The early city states that began to unify humanity used religion to do so.  For better or worse.

I object to this phrasing. Religion doesn't build anything. All it does is take credit for natural human creative instincts, at best it provides a (sufficient, but by no means necessary) backdrop against which those drives take shape, but to credit religion for the works that result, when in fact it's just a base parasite, is wildly inaccurate.

All the good that religion does, does not require religion. And yet a vast majority of the bad that religion does, is spurred on exclusively or in large part by religion. Think about that.

Quote:What I'm saying is, humanity will never be rid of religion and the fight against it is never ending. To continue fighting against it is futile in the extreme. It cannot be stopped, BUT, as we've seen time and time again, it can be steered to the benefit of humans or it's detriment.

So... how could you possibly have determined this?

You must be joking, religious have been the reason for humans' grouping into larger city-state/tribes since the dawn of civilization. They all rise and they all fall....and look what time it is. People need a unifying vision and context for their lives. Religions have provided that for better and worse.

Determine what? That it's better to push a giant rolling boulder from the side rather than stand directly in front and expect to stop it?

Religion shouldn't be forbidden. It just shouldn't be taken that seriously. Which seems counterproductive, perhaps, because the books tell you to take it more seriously than anything.

(August 15, 2016 at 4:23 pm)Chad32 Wrote: Religion shouldn't be forbidden. It just shouldn't be taken that seriously. Which seems counterproductive, perhaps, because the books tell you to take it more seriously than anything.

Religion is like a tree, it needs tending and regular pruning to keep it from crowding out the other trees and over crowding itself with crossing branches.

If you let an orchard go feral, it will produce crap fruit.