(August 21, 2016 at 11:34 pm)paulpablo Wrote:(August 21, 2016 at 11:19 pm)Nymphadora Wrote: 1. The failure of 1 parent, single mother households; your words, not mine.Well Rob is wrong, and you're wrong.
2. The promiscuity of "females" and the lack of a role model for men, because there wasn't a father figure around; I guess males can't be promiscuous? Only females? Especially if there's no male role model?
3. single mothers trying to unsuccessfully raise bored, young jobless men who are in turn also not getting married or settling down; again, your words.
4. Your assumption of "Plus there's usually some dependence on welfare"; Exactly what was your point with that?
Point out how either one of us is wrong.
Quote:If I say the children of poor parents are less well educated than rich parents usually, there's no blame being evoked.
But you aren't saying that. You're only now injecting that straw into this argument because you have nothing to stand on.
Quote:Instead of giving me anecdotes about who you read my post to show me specifically where I laid the blame at the feet of any female.bold mine.
Look up, dummy. I have already done that three times now. I can't be arsed to keep showing you your own words. Especially if you're not going to bother reading what you write. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.
Quote:You just keep posting me the same statement I made about communities with high rates of single motherhood failing, children of single mothers being more promiscuous or whatever.
Look - if you cannot see the correlation between what YOU wrote and the perception in what YOU wrote, then you are beyond help here. But hey - I can do this all day. I do however, have to stop at 5pm because I have to get to school tonight.
Quote:Where did I say "This is the fault of the female/girl/mother."
You didn't say that word for word exactly. But your intent behind the words you did use, said it. Quit trying to play semantics here.
And I'll ask you - where in your post did you make any attempt to say what men or males in such communities, could do to help the "unsuccessful" (read: failure) single mothers you mentioned?
Quote:Where did I even use the word blame, where did I put any responsibility onto anyone in my post at all for anything bad?emphasis mine.
It's all over your fucking post. And again, I've taken the time to point it out.
You don't get a free pass because you blatantly went out of your way, to send a message through your post that yes, you ARE blaming single mothers for their unsuccessful raising of, as YOU put it: bored, young, jobless men. All the while, again, refusing to offer up any positive suggestions that could be a solution to that. And now you want to play semantics with me because you got called out for being misogynist? Up to this point, I have refused to call you that. But your continued arguing and refusal to see what came out of YOUR OWN thought process and got put in writing by YOU, is just mind blowing.
Okay.... I'll dumb it down, just for you since you want to be bullheaded about it:
Did you actually use the specific word "blame"? Nope. But your entire posts REEKS of blaming single mothers and seeing them as the problem - even more so in Milwaukee, according to you.
Show me in your post where you took a stance against absent baby daddies and offered up any responsibility on them? Show me in your post where you made suggestions for the grown men in the communities you spoke of, so that they could help end the cycle of the type of situations you're talking about. Oh that's right, you can't show me because you didn't bother mentioning any of that and judging by your reaction here, I can see that you don't like it when a woman uses your own words against you and makes a fair point that you really can't argue with.
Quote:I read your posts to my pet cat and he agrees with me that you're wrong and I'm right.
You're a fucking idiot. All five of my cats agree that someone must have made you drink bad Kool-Aid when you were a kid.
Disclaimer: I am only responsible for what I say, not what you choose to understand.