RE: Man beheads woman in supermarket shouts 'god is on earth'
May 16, 2011 at 12:04 am
(This post was last modified: May 16, 2011 at 12:11 am by Violet.)
Shell B Wrote:Perhaps, but how often do you hear of someone escaping the clutches of a madman? Not as often as you hear about someone being murdered by one. The thing is, "neutralizing" someone who has a knife is not as easy as you make it sound, especially if the guy has crazy strength. I don't know about in Alaska, but we don't have local ninjas wondering around the grocery store. The safest bet would be to have a group of people ambush him. That would take too long to organize. Either way, the lady was dead.
The thing about crazy people is that for what strength they might possess: it will be let out in an uncontrolled and reckless manner. Hence you don't even need to be strong: just be able to close a gap and put someone in a hold that is unconcerned with how strong they are. Intercepting from behind is ideal for one's health... but this *will* end up on the ground. Triangle choke, cradle, what have you: it *really* does not matter how strong a crazy person is: they are not lucid. So yes... it is really quite easy to neutralize crazy with a knife.
Crazy with a flail much less so
Quote:Engage an unexpected enemy? It seems to me he had only one enemy in that grocery store. Unless he started stabbing me or I was armed and could help, I would not engage anyone. I do not fancy myself a traveling hero or ninja. Sometimes, barging in and jumping on a dude like it is a fucking video game is not the smartest thing to do. Besides, most of the people in the store were likely women and children.
Expect horrible things to occur without one preparing for them, and yes: engage the unexpected enemy the moment one feels secure in their knowledge of the enemy's parameters. Enemy has a gun? Now you know what they can do. Enemy has a knife? Now you know what they can do. Enemy has a gun and a knife? Now you know what they can do. Enemy is unarmed? I think point is made.
As it turns out, life differs from a video game only in that one has no retries/saves and the pain/pleasure you feel is "real". Women can deal with crazy+knife as effectively as men, and nobody is suggesting the children were raised to be any more competent than their parents (infact, they are raised as industrially as cattle).
(May 15, 2011 at 3:27 pm)Cinjin Cain Wrote: well hold on now ... I said I wouldn't get involved but thats because I have to assume that I would be unarmed (as I imagine 99% of American's are unarmed while grocey shopping). However, you give me a 45 cal. Smith & Wesson, I'll be the first one to put a round in that douchebag's left eye socket.
But I stand where I was before. I'm not going to be the dipshit that gets himself cut up by a knife wielding religious nutbag because of some misguided sense of heroism.
You don't *need* a weapon more than your arms, legs, brain, and what have you. The crazy man has a *butchering knife*... he isn't going to do anything to you that some first aid won't fix, and if he does then remember you are in a supermarket: the ambulance was on its way since before you engaged. That isn't to say go ahead and impale yourself... but I sincerely doubt one would take lasting damage from a reckless person with a knife.
It's heroic to remove a threat from one's vicinity now? Here I presumed that was sensible and expected of those who can.
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