(August 28, 2016 at 8:45 pm)Arkilogue Wrote:(August 28, 2016 at 8:26 pm)Brian37 Wrote: No, I value my species ability to be compassionate. The fact that they falsely attribute that "conviction" based on old myths, I am under no obligation to value as a claim. I am only saying I see good in my species, not what they falsely attribute that good to.The question you have to ask yourself is- "Would they have been as compassionate without their beliefs?" I am not asking you to believe their claims.
Our species is much older than any written religion or boarders. Our planet since the start of evolution has had 5 mass extinctions of which only 1% of life you see now remains, while 99% has gone extinct. Our sun is only 1 star of billions in our Milky Way Galaxy. A a galaxy so big it takes 1 ray of light 100,000 years at the speed of light to cross. And that is in a universe containing 100s of billions of galaxies in a 13.8 billion year old universe.
I value human rights, not claims. Humans have rights, but claims as ideas do not deserve blind value.
If I told you my perspective goes back before the beginning of the metaverse, and that our observable universe is a tiny dot of spherical space inside an enormous torus which is only 1 of 6 bends-of space time inside each universe and there are infinite universes in the metaverse.....you wouldn't believe me either.
Till I show you the evidence of what it predicts. Even then, many people simple won't give up or augment their preconceive notions, what ever they may turn out to be.
(August 28, 2016 at 8:30 pm)bennyboy Wrote: ?
Look under your handle.
Yes, if you can accept that others with different god claims can be as good as you, then you need to consider the claim itself is not the source of human behavior. Humans do not like the prospect of being finite. Evolution's goal with all life is reproduction. Humans simply mistake their own good fortune as being from a fictional source. They also suffer from ignoring that the rivals they defeat in their success, also want that same success.
Point being we are all the same species, and no matter what myths or gods or superstitions our species concocts, it is temporary and an act of futility in cosmic time. In 5 billion years our species will be long extinct when our sun runs out of fuel and collapses or explodes and fries our planet. The universe will continue with no record of us or the myths we concoct as a species. But, that does not mean we cant extend our finite ride right now, we can. I simply say that we cannot afford to put old myth as our top priority as a species when we have pollution, famine and climate change threatening all sides.
