RE: God brings peace?
May 19, 2011 at 1:49 pm
(This post was last modified: May 19, 2011 at 2:00 pm by Cinjin.)
(May 19, 2011 at 12:30 pm)Zenith Wrote: Conclusion: the crusaders were driven mostly by political reasons, rather than religious, and were catholic armies. So showing an image with a crusader hating an 'infidel' for having a different religion, and going to kill him is... quite misplaced.
First of all zenith, the comic is meant to be satirical not a historical misprepresentation.
Secondly, EVERYONE knows that the Crusades were political - the comic is pointing out the fact that "god" was used as an excuse to conquer and control. I don't think anyone on this site actually thinks that the catholic church's primary reason for the crusades was bringing the word of god to the infidel ... but rather it was secondary and made a wonderful excuse to take military action.
Quote:P.S. I don't understand why this thread is called "God brings peace?" and not "religion brings peace?". You know, I did not see God there, I've seen only men - and if a Creator exists, it wasn't Him who did those things, but men. And "God" is not "religion": if a man believes in God, himself would not go out to kill people for that; he needs a "religion" for that (religious authorities to command that, an official religion where there is a clergy and they have titles, which would cause the common man to put his trust in them and to blindly follow them).
(May 18, 2011 at 3:01 pm)Doubting Thomas Wrote: I think he posted that because the German Army started WWII. The buttons on their uniforms said "God is with us," but obviously he didn't bring peace.If God was with them, then perhaps they would have won the war, not lose it.
Nevertheless, it was good for the inspiration of the troops, to make them confident and hopeful.
I believe that OP was meant to be tongue-in-cheek. I'm assuming that "god" is being used generically as a term for religion. I'm a Deist and even I use "god" in a general sense to convey the corrupt nature of ALL religions.
Regarding the buttons: I'm sure a typical german soldier probably would've felt confident and hopeful with those buttons. I don't think anyone here interpreted it as a historical misrepresentation. Again, the statement was merely showing the irony of putting "god" in front of a brutal genocidal army. I think you may be getting a bit nit-picky.