(September 21, 2016 at 1:08 pm)Crossless1 Wrote:(September 21, 2016 at 1:01 pm)RobertE Wrote: Completely missed the point. He thinks I am a "new believer." And I am now thinking "why on earth was I praying for in the first place?" Sorry, but I am beginning to think that schizophrenia is in fact another name for religion (I present my excuses to those who suffer from this terrible disease.) The way I read it is this, "you should pray to god, but in reality god is not going to fucking help you", since it is false.
Damn it, Robert, you're just asking for Drich to repeat his distinction between prayer and petition. The point he misses is that he, and all believers, have it set up in their minds that anything -- including no answer at all -- is "really" an answer to a petition or prayer. Hence, it's unfalsifiable.
Damn you too Cross!!!!! It is typical Christian behaviour to introduce a "grey area", as far as miracles are concerned.