AW yes.... Gods love

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The purpose of being created would be to live, to which there are millions of reasons for living, if you're having a problem finding one, perhaps you should get assistance.
You can say "God love's me" by opening your mouth and speaking the words, I assume you meant the feeling behind it though
Surprisingly enough almost every conversion testimony I've heard is from when people were at rock bottom. Perhaps that relates somehow?

- i have plenty of reasons to live such as my family, friends , etc
- I said "God loves me" being sarcastic if there is a God im sure he hates humanity ( well the suffering people at least )
- Conversion stories when people hit rock bottom? So when i need an a friend to tell me im special and that He loves me and has purpose for me it would be a great time when im at rock bottom? sounds like a Crutch or something i just needed to believe in to keep order in my life

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-good
-so you think God, if he exists, made humanity and hates them?
-Could be a crutch, or it could be that if God existed, he might just have a better perspective to make a guide your path then you're doing by yourself. Crutch is acceptable though, especially if you can admit to having a broken leg.

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The purpose of being created would be to live, to which there are millions of reasons for living, if you're having a problem finding one, perhaps you should get assistance.
You can say "God love's me" by opening your mouth and speaking the words, I assume you meant the feeling behind it though
Surprisingly enough almost every conversion testimony I've heard is from when people were at rock bottom. Perhaps that relates somehow?

Who says you have to have a reason to live, or that not having a reason to live means you would happily kill yourself? Why should he need assistance in those situations?

Let me guess..he should visit a Pastor of your choosing to tell him what he should hold as his reasons for living.

As far as being rock bottom to hit conversions, I tend a bit to agree with you. Here lately the people I come across who are the most vocally religious are the ones who smoked away a good job, wife, family, and home all in the name of crack. Most of these people have very little education, and tended to have money and jobs given to them for being born to the family they belonged to. They ruined it ALL because of stupid and selfish bad decisions, not needing education to work their way up to it legitimately, and now that everything is lost and they are in the gutter they suddenly learn "the secrets of the universe"?


YES. That is exactly what these burnouts turned Christians are trying to convince me of. That once they hit the fucking gutters suddenly they learned the secrets of the universe and that they are sure they made the right decisions...with a history of making bad decision after bad decision.

Well excuse me... last I checked from their own mouths is that all they could do is make the wrong and selfish decision, and this is no different. And now all of a sudden they "know" god did it, and its a fact? How did you figure that..oh yeah..he came to you when you were high.

Honestly, there will be a time, possibly even in my own lifetime, where the majority of Christians will be former crack and heroine users at less than 20% of the population. From what I have experienced in the last ten years, there is a VERY GOOD chance that if you say you are a Pentacostal, then you are saying "Yeah, I used to be a really bad Heroine/crack user, then I burnt myself out and found Jesus."

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I never really thought you'd be baited so easily there rev, chillax. Statistically I would say 99% of suicides have determined they have no reason to live, which does not necessitate that someone without a reason to live is suicidal, just indicative (very). But then 75% or statistics are made up on the spot aren't they?
Addicts do have a strong ministry and conversion rate.. I would agree with that. I thought one of the key points to getting out of denial of being an addict though would be when you hit rock bottom. I didn't give specifics on why, or what area, they hit rock bottom in, you just specified to vilify. Regardless most people who can make good decisions, and live a decent life, have little need to think outside their little box. Most people are content with what they have and have no desire for searching outside of their comfort zone. In that case believer or not, they're not conditioning themselves to see the world they want to, whether that's with/without god(s). n'est-ce pas?