RE: Fucking NRA
September 30, 2016 at 4:32 pm
(This post was last modified: September 30, 2016 at 4:41 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(September 30, 2016 at 4:26 pm)abaris Wrote: Yes, I realize that. And it's probably more than anywhere in Europe.In some states you can get a long gun at will so long as you have a clean record. Though which long guns you can and can't get, and what you can and cant use them for varies. Here, I can buy a gun on the street from anyone selling it, in full view of the public and police. We actually have a county/state semi-holiday dedicated to it. Court Day. In california, you have to submit an application to the doj and then wait at least ten days for their approval before the transfer of the firearm can legally be accomplished.
The reason why I'm askling is, I could walk into my school mates shop and obtain a long weapon at my leisure as long as my criminal record turns up clean. For a handgun I need to take a psychological test, which, as I said, can be repeated as many times as I like.
Quote:They banned pump actions and automatics because these were the weapons of choice for bank robbers in the late 80ies, early 90ies.What's the weapon of choice today?
Quote:It seems to me that the second amendment supercedes state law in many instances. I realize that New York and various other states are harder on weapon ownership than others. But the numbers still speak for itself. Nearly as many guns as their are citizens. In my case it's 1:10.No state law can run afoul of a constitutional right, but the status of that right itself is not such as the world and many anti-gun nuts believe. We do now and have always barred a significant portion of our public from purchasing or possessing firearms and simultaneously severely limited their lawful use. These laws exist and have survived constitutional challenges time and time again. It's something we do.
The numbers do, though, speak for themselves. Most guns are concentrated into relatively few hands (people who own more than one gun)...americans aren't all or even mostly gun toting cowboys..some of us are just armed to the fucking teeth, spiking the stats..and those guys are overwhelmingly -not- criminals nor do their guns find their way into the hands of criminals, nor do their guns end up shooting somebody with any statistical relevance. The sheer number of guns in an area correlates -negatively- to crime in an area. The areas with the greatest density of guns and gun owners have the -lowest- rates of gun crime. The areas where relatively few guns excist and are traded as an underworld commodity (one gun for many crimes, many perpetrators) are the most impoverished, and moist riddled with drug war activity. So you tell me, what do the numbers suggest our gun problem is?
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