(October 4, 2016 at 7:15 am)lighthouse Wrote:It is never, ever good to drown your children for disobedience. My moral stance on this is superior to yours and your invisible sky fairy.(October 4, 2016 at 4:15 am)Mathilda Wrote: I haven't read the whole thread, I just jumped into random pages and skimmed through. But the OP is asking a question based on the assumption that her god exists. It does not. It cannot.
Humans are not rational creatures. We are animals evolved to survive in a particularly environmental niche. So the OP may immediately rail against the idea that there is no god, but that's because she has probably been taught from an early age that there is one. Or she hasn't been taught critical thinking skills and just accepts what she has been told that also feels good. Science has shown us that the human brain has emotional reactions that are then consciously rationalised.
First, what is a god? We can't even define it, so how can anyone believe in it, especially considering that there is no difference between their god and anything else that they can imagine. And if you could define what a god was, and explain it, then it wouldn't be a god but an alien creature.
Secondly, the very idea of a god is at odds with what we know about how the universe works based on scientific knowledge. And we know that science works. We wouldn't have the modern world if it did not. Medication, transport, weather forecasting, computing, mining and drilling for oil, GPS for example are all based on science that contradicts the Bible. So the OP is arguing from her own personal ignorance by dismissing all these.
The Original Post has about as much connection to reality as arguing about Father Christmas / Santa Claus 's motivations for invading little children's bedrooms and delivering presents if they're 'good'. The only relevance there is to real life is to discuss the OPs own standards of ethics and morality.
There is no god. There cannot be a god. We cannot even define what a god is. The whole idea is nonsensical. It literally is on a par with assuming the existence of Father Christmas / Santa Claus or the tooth fairy.
Hi Mathilda, while I appreciate your preconceived assumptions of how christians are raised you are wrong in this case. I didn't grow up believing in God or in a church. Human brain and the nature of humans are fascinating and I love studying it so I think you're great already.
God is defined in many dictionaries as "the creator and ruler of the universe and source of all moral authority; the supreme being." so I guess we can define it. Science is simply the explanation of how God works. The big bang is how God spoke the universe into existence.
The content of the post is truth and if you choose not to accept that, that is fine. I'm on an atheist forum site. I know nobody here believes in God and I'm not expecting you to. There is a God and ignoring him isn't going to make him go away. How can you disprove his existence if you never looked for him? Nothing is impossible in the science world so why is this? Nobody dedicates their lives to the tooth fairy or santa.
(October 4, 2016 at 7:06 am)chimp3 Wrote: How do you reconcile your god as loving parent with the myth of the great flood. In this brutal tale god drowns everyone but a few. Pregnant women, babies, children. He did not choose to "raise them all". Loving? I think not.
He gave them all many chances to turn their lives around but the humans and earth were much more currupt than it is today. Thats hard to believe considering how currupt everything is today. There was only one family left who loved God so he gave humanity another chance through them. This also allowed you to exist. Noah also warned the people of the flood and nobody believed him. So I mean..... God gave them chances bruh. God gave them plenty of chances and choices on how they wanted things to go down but he wouldn't let the creation which he loved so dearly to just become evil and corrupt. The same God that provides mercy, love, chances, and choices is also one of great power. He is slow to anger but he can still be angered.
4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
the words love and God are interchangeable in many cases with the bible
God thinks it's fun to confuse primates. Larsen's God!