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Signs you're a fundamentalist Christian
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RE: Signs you're a fundamentalist Christian
Here is a link to Madison's Remonstrance: http://www.has.vcu.edu/soc/rdr/Culture.g...istory.pdf

My search fails to find any reference to the word "gospel" in it. I think you are reading something from that idiot Barton who likes to make shit up so religious assholes feel better.

Not that much could save you.


Quote:"We have staked the whole future of American civilization not upon the power of government, far from it. We have staked the future of all our political institutions upon the capacity of mankind for self-government, upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves, to control ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments."
-- Complete Fabrication; sentiments not found in any known Madison writings and "inconsistent with everything we know about Madison's views on religion and government," say noted Madison historians

This is a complete fabrication that dates back to the 1950s. A variation of this fabrication -- and there are several -- was read into the Congressional Record by Representative Dannemeyer on October 7, 1992. Another variation was later read into the Congressional Record by Florida Representative Scarborough on March 5, 1997, in defense of Judge Roy Moore's practice of posting a condensed version of the Protestant variant of the first tables of stone rendition of the Hebrew Decalogue on his courtroom wall, in full view of the Jury Box containing what would otherwise have been an impartial jury. Scarborough used this fabrication long after David Barton, its most vehement proponent, had declared the alleged quotation "false" and had asked people to stop using it (see Rob Boston's 1996 article "Mything in Action: David Barton's 'Questionable Quotes'").

The fabrication appears on page 120 of David Barton's stunningly popular book The Myth of Separation. In the footnote, Barton cites:

"Harold K Lane, Liberty! Cry Liberty! (Boston: Lamb and Lamb Tractarian Society, 1939) pp. 32-33. See also Fedrick Nyneyer, First Principles in Morality and Economics: Neighborly Love and Ricardo's Law of Association (South Holland Libertarian Press, 1958), pp. 31."

Unfortunately for Barton's cause (and for his credibility as a man of truthfulness), John Stagg and David Mattern, editors of The Papers of James Madison issued the following statement concerning this misquotation:

"We did not find anything in our files remotely like the sentiment expressed in the extract you sent us. In addition, the idea is inconsistent with everything we know about Madison's views on religion and government, views which he expressed time and time again in public and in private." (Letter dated November 23, 1993, to which the editors refer all who inquire about this falsehood.)
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RE: Signs you're a fundamentalist Christian - by RAD - May 29, 2011 at 9:38 pm
RE: Signs you're a fundamentalist Christian - by RAD - May 30, 2011 at 11:40 am
RE: Signs you're a fundamentalist Christian - by RAD - May 30, 2011 at 12:44 pm
RE: Signs you're a fundamentalist Christian - by RAD - May 31, 2011 at 12:02 am
RE: Signs you're a fundamentalist Christian - by Cinjin - May 30, 2011 at 10:59 pm
RE: Signs you're a fundamentalist Christian - by Cinjin - May 31, 2011 at 12:21 am
RE: Signs you're a fundamentalist Christian - by fr0d0 - May 31, 2011 at 7:18 pm
RE: Signs you're a fundamentalist Christian - by RAD - May 31, 2011 at 9:09 pm
RE: Signs you're a fundamentalist Christian - by fr0d0 - June 1, 2011 at 4:21 am
RE: Signs you're a fundamentalist Christian - by Minimalist - May 31, 2011 at 9:26 pm
RE: Signs you're a fundamentalist Christian - by Violet - June 1, 2011 at 10:40 pm
RE: Signs you're a fundamentalist Christian - by Darth - June 4, 2011 at 10:32 am

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