RE: John Oliver...Spotlight on Johnson and Stein
October 18, 2016 at 7:47 pm
(This post was last modified: October 18, 2016 at 8:17 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
-continuing the thought, with a recent example. Repubs have been bitching for years about voter fraud. Yes, it's transparent bid to keep blacks out of polling booths...but now, with Trump, they're getting interviewed on NPR (of all places) saying that the danger to claiming the system is rigged is that it erodes confidence in our institutions. So long as it was just race baiting dog whistlers greasing the wheels it was okay, but the moment they start to worry that it de-legitimizes their bullshit in the public eye...which includes all that shit about voter fraud, they start to get antsy.
The last thing they want is any sizable group of people losing confidence in the system....because -gasp and shock- that might lead people to stay home on voting day.
@FNM Don;t even get me started on the crocodile tears that count as "self awareness" for the dem establishment. They rebranded themselves out of being the party of jim crow and southern racism...but the brand is all that's changed. They'd put a suit on mlk's bones and parade him up and down the street if they thought it would get them enough votes. These are the people who propose welfare for the poor, and award the earmarked funds as corporate welfare to those who exploit the poor. They're the ones that talk the big environment game -as- they sell us up the river on the very same. The repubs say plenty of batshit things about the dems, but they're not wrong when they claim that dems -use- these causes to grind out the same tired shit for their own backers.
The only -real- disagreement between either party is how to divide the loot.
@Aroura They -do- need your vote..for the same reasons that burger king needs your money (and lt;s face it, money is a big factor in why any candidate needs your vote)...and if they can't have that they need to keep you voting against them (and preferably losing) otherwise the well runs dry.
Maybe that's why they both parties strongly agree, that the most important thing for citizens like us is to do is keep yanking that fucking lever like it were anything other than a slot machine?
@No one in particular: I know how easy it is to imagine that I won;t vote because I'm lazy, or ignorant. To characterize this as the inaction of a person who doesn't give a shit and wouldn't take action to make change, or that I'm some anarcho nutjob (haven't gotten there yet but it;s a matter of time), or maybe that I'm some kind of ideological purist who wouldn't dirty my hands with a flawed candidate. The great part, about these particular lines of criticism..is that I'm actually a moderate (it should be pretty fucking easy to find a candidate a moderate would find acceptable, don't you think?) and a patriot, who's shown...not told, that I'm willing to dig deep and give this place everything I've got, up to and including my life. I don;t give a shit how many hookers a candidate has bought, I don't care whether or not the candidate carries a bible in his pocket along with the smiling wife and 1.5 children and pulls them all out of that same pocket at every opportunity. I'd put up with either, np. Hell, I;m sympathetic to a little grift here and there as well, so long as we know who's stuffing what into their pockets and why.
I'm not voting because that -is- my action, it;s the only thing I -cvan- do to effect the change I want to see in context....because I do care, and I've had enough of this shit in just the short amount of time I've been here. I plan on being here for a long time to come, too...so I have the patience for a long game. I'll rob them, insomuch as I can, of the legitimacy they babble about every time a president invokes the public mandate - pointing to the 51% of 57% that got them elected.
The last thing they want is any sizable group of people losing confidence in the system....because -gasp and shock- that might lead people to stay home on voting day.
@FNM Don;t even get me started on the crocodile tears that count as "self awareness" for the dem establishment. They rebranded themselves out of being the party of jim crow and southern racism...but the brand is all that's changed. They'd put a suit on mlk's bones and parade him up and down the street if they thought it would get them enough votes. These are the people who propose welfare for the poor, and award the earmarked funds as corporate welfare to those who exploit the poor. They're the ones that talk the big environment game -as- they sell us up the river on the very same. The repubs say plenty of batshit things about the dems, but they're not wrong when they claim that dems -use- these causes to grind out the same tired shit for their own backers.
The only -real- disagreement between either party is how to divide the loot.
@Aroura They -do- need your vote..for the same reasons that burger king needs your money (and lt;s face it, money is a big factor in why any candidate needs your vote)...and if they can't have that they need to keep you voting against them (and preferably losing) otherwise the well runs dry.
Maybe that's why they both parties strongly agree, that the most important thing for citizens like us is to do is keep yanking that fucking lever like it were anything other than a slot machine?
@No one in particular: I know how easy it is to imagine that I won;t vote because I'm lazy, or ignorant. To characterize this as the inaction of a person who doesn't give a shit and wouldn't take action to make change, or that I'm some anarcho nutjob (haven't gotten there yet but it;s a matter of time), or maybe that I'm some kind of ideological purist who wouldn't dirty my hands with a flawed candidate. The great part, about these particular lines of criticism..is that I'm actually a moderate (it should be pretty fucking easy to find a candidate a moderate would find acceptable, don't you think?) and a patriot, who's shown...not told, that I'm willing to dig deep and give this place everything I've got, up to and including my life. I don;t give a shit how many hookers a candidate has bought, I don't care whether or not the candidate carries a bible in his pocket along with the smiling wife and 1.5 children and pulls them all out of that same pocket at every opportunity. I'd put up with either, np. Hell, I;m sympathetic to a little grift here and there as well, so long as we know who's stuffing what into their pockets and why.
I'm not voting because that -is- my action, it;s the only thing I -cvan- do to effect the change I want to see in context....because I do care, and I've had enough of this shit in just the short amount of time I've been here. I plan on being here for a long time to come, too...so I have the patience for a long game. I'll rob them, insomuch as I can, of the legitimacy they babble about every time a president invokes the public mandate - pointing to the 51% of 57% that got them elected.
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