(October 20, 2016 at 11:02 am)Astreja Wrote:(October 20, 2016 at 7:52 am)Little Rik Wrote: Nobody so far has ever come up with solid evidence that a brain devoid of oxygen and blood can generate clear and sharp experiences as the NDEs.
I am not yet able to post links due to the 30/30 rule, Little Rik, but please Google and read these two articles:
"Near death experiences: a multidisciplinary hypothesis"
and
"Near-Death Experiences in patients with locked-in syndrome: Not always a blissful journey"
You seem to be very fond of telling people how wrong they are, and using words like "never" a lot, while not exhibiting due diligence regarding the existence of your purported god-thing.
From My perspective as a medical professional with a particular interest in neurology, I am strongly of the belief that there is almost certainly a physiological explanation for NDEs. One of the reasons this is so hard to demonstrate is that when someone is in medical or surgical crisis, only an irresponsible idiot would use that crisis as an opportunity to set up a proper experimental environment. The first priority is always the patient's welfare. Always. As a result, all NDEs are anecdotal rather than based on peer-reviewed, double-blind trials and at best neuroscience can currently only attempt to replicate elements that may or may not have caused the NDE experience.
It is indeed possible to induce NDE-like sensory phenomena in a laboratory setting in a non-emergent environment, using a fMRI (functional MRI) machine. Your god, on the other hand, remains a weak hypothesis with only anecdotal evidence that varies wildly from one culture to another.
You raised many points but let us see one by one.
1) NDEs show flattened brain waves in the electroencephalogram (EEG) so it just not possible for a brain out of life to create anything at all.
Now I take something from one of your link.
If this excess of bioluminescent photon emission exceeds a threshold in retinotopic visual areas, this can appear as (phosphene) lights because the brain interprets these intrinsic retinotopic bioluminescent photons as if they originated from the external physical world.
A brain can well interpret something when there is life in it not when is out of life such as in a flat EEG
so you fail Astreja.
Now researches find that even in a flat EEG there may be activity and that refute the belief that is all over but this particular research relate to coma in which the heart is still active so if you put heart and brain
out the equation as in the case of an NDEs there is nothing at all.
http://www.jhunewsletter.com/2013/10/03/...eeg-13855/
Now about God.
Most of the NDEs experience and perceive God not father Christmas or the elves.
Why is that so?
If the NDEs would not be to experience God then there would be a huge variety of visions not GOD, GOD and GOD once again.
I guess you never thought about that Astreja, did you?
Not only that but why even strong atheists after the NDE become all of a sudden strong believers
and why those who went through an NDE dump materialism in favor of spirituality?