New Clinton email controversy

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Funny how the Clinton "email controversy" is so big that this thread is now about abortion....

But anyway, the problem arises for people on any side of this issue that outlawing abortions does almost nothing to reduce them.  It does nothing to save lives, and only risks more lives.  This is a fact.
If you wish women to have less abortions, the answer is more access to birth control, especially for poorer people, and more education. These are the only methods that are proven to reduce abortions.

So, if you are pro-life, stop wasting your time trying to ban abortions. Much like banning drugs, it just drives the the service into the black market, but does not reduce rates of unwanted behavior.  Start spending time making access to Planned Parenthoood and other women's health clinics GREATER, so more women don't have unwanted pregnancies in the first place. If you make abortions illegal, it also makes it so less women have access to to education and birth control and DRIVES ABORTION RATES UP.

The places with the highest rates of unwanted pregnancy and abortion are the places where it is the most difficult to access (except for eastern europe, where birth control is illegal but abortion is not, what an effed up place!!).  
I know it seems counter-intuitive, but a lot of things work this way.  Make them illegal, and they get worse. Bring them into the light and educate people and help PREVENT the problem in the first place.

I can actually agree that simply outlawing abortion isn't the answer, and the article I posted touched on that as well. What we need to do is work towards building a culture that recognizes the value of all human life in all its stages... so that abortion becomes unthinkable to the vast majority of people. And Trump is absolutely not the guy who promotes this kind of respect for humanity. I do think abortion should be illegal, but I think it needs to get to that point in the right way. In a way that involves a changing of attitude towards life.

Creating a culture of life is a lovely idea, as if we arent striving for that already, but do you realize people who believe that human life start at conception are not actually less likely to have an abortion? People do not chose abortion because they don't care, they chose it because they are desperate.

We currently live in a world where violence is less tolerated than at any other time before us. If that alone were the answer, we would see rates dropping in relation, but we don't. Abortion rates only drop in relation to birth control access, health care access, and education. It is still legal federally, and our rates continue to drop. Yay!

You say you agree that simply outlawing it isn't the answer, but I'm trying to explain how it is never the answer. It might succeed in punishing many people, but it would not succeed in saving the lives of unborn children.

We need to remove the causes, the desperate situations. Outlawing it does nothing to that end, it is punitive only.