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Why I Don't Want To Be An Atheist
RE: Why I Don't Want To Be An Atheist
(November 1, 2016 at 12:07 pm)Drich Wrote: It seems you do not understand what I said nor the examples i gave.

I acknowledge your idealist version of science. You correctly outlined what science is supposed to be via the scientific method.

However that does not reflect the reality of it all.

There is a documentary call particle fever:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDDyOFvU4Pg

found it for you. it is a long movie but explain the higgs boson particle/the search for it more over the information they had before the Hadrian super collider was built, and followed the scientists at cern for little over a year after. It goes into detail what was discovered and what the cern scientists did to protect their grant money. Then google higgs boson found 2013, or higgs boson nobel prize.. Then google: higgs boson fraud 2014.

I did that.  Did you actually read the results of your 'fraud' search?  I rather doubt it.  The results included one story about a group of scientists who had an alternate theory to explain the Higgs data.  That story was repeated multiple times.  The rest of the hits are from crackpots and people criticizing things not directly relevant to the physics.  In short, your implied claim that the Higgs boson discovery was a fraud is based on pretty much crap.  One alternative theory and a bunch of bullshit.  So your rant below is just that: a rant, containing no substance.  Care to try again to document this 'fraud'?

(November 1, 2016 at 12:07 pm)Drich Wrote: IF you were to take the time to read all of the related material and compare it to what the documentary shows/claims they knew before the super colider was built you would come to a stark conclusion.. They simply reworded their original information/research to fit the higgs boson theory! The 2014 expose done by the huffington post even reports this, which invalidates everything that was claimed in 2013. and even the nobel prize.

What does this mean to your ideology concerning the use of the scientific method?

It's all pie in the sky sport.

The way science really works more closely follows a R&D business model than the scientific method. "scientist" pitch or sell an idea to a benefactor and then have to produce what they pitched. In the level of the higgs boson only a hand full of people in the world could know where or not what they were doing was factual or not. Those 'scientist' sold a government and several other benefactors a multi BILLION dollar piece of equipment. Because of this they had to produce something in line with what was sold. So they put lipstick on the pig they already had and everyone else was all but willing to accept it with out question. EVEN the Nobel commity.

Your next question should be why would the Nobel commity issue a prize based on junk science. Because the scientific community has been conditioned to take ON FAITH, anything packaged a certain way. meaning if it has been published in the correct journals, if it has the right scientific seals of approval and so on. It is a matter of great faith that all that vetting is indeed done by your holistic version of how 'science/scientific method' works.

But again, the great problem? when billions upon billions have been spent honor and integrity goes out the window for funding. You can not deny this no matter how much you want to. Why? because scientists who fail to meet their goals/projections are discredited and their life's work is cast aside. They are made a joke of the scientific community (see the original cern nobel prize winning scientists now)

Now, again, if this (scientist are whoring themselves and their junk science out for funding) happens here in the top echelon of your precious 'science'.. how much more susceptible is the 'science' that says a stegosaurus looks the way we have depicted in our museums, or a on this one museum funded dig we find the 'missing link' or if we launch a telescope into space we always find the theorized celestial object, on and on?

Science is a whore sold to whomever think they can benefit from discovery, which makes scientist bias to their theories. Theories that do not change unless (as with the scientist at cern) are forced by the community at large to retract what they claim. It is all one big money game. Who ever has the money creates the scientific narrative.

Unsupported rant is unsupported.

(November 1, 2016 at 12:07 pm)Drich Wrote: That my naive friend is how your precious 'science/religion' works.

Or it's just a groundless story that you happen to believe.


(November 1, 2016 at 4:53 pm)Drich Wrote: That is why it was over a year later that the higgs boson discovery was debunked.

Citation needed.

(November 1, 2016 at 5:19 pm)Alex K Wrote: Drich, you're such a dumb shit. Knowing nothing and understanding nothing never stopped you from running your mouth it seems. Too bad I know the scientific field in question inside out and am happy to confirm that, yes, you're a lying idiot who still wouldn't understand what the science which you claim is a fraud is even about, even if they blew it up your behind.

I can only assume that you are equally astonishingly ignorant about many of the other topics you like to pontificate about, which makes sense in hindsight.

I think that's the bottom line.  We have a bible idolizing crackpot who is misrepresenting the physics and the facts.

Where's your evidence that the Higgs discovery was debunked?  I see a lot of ranting with no actual support.
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