(November 4, 2016 at 9:50 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Sure we can imagine them, you imagined a universe in which 2+2=5. Is there some point at which you;re goig to say anything that's true even by reference to your own loose statements and standards?
Can we skip to that point?
Again, no, goblygoop is emphatically not a set of logical rules, you invoked it specifically to avoid logical rules, you've described it as being a set of rules that lead to illogical conclusions..... and fred is still not bob. We can discredit goblygoopland and goblygoop as logical, only because you explicitly imagined them to be so. It doesn;t mean that, in goblygooplan, 2+2 -isn;t- 5...just that this isn't logical, it;s goblygoopal..and you;re still just equivocating...now, after you've claimed that they -weren't- the same thing. Do you need me to quote you......I shouldn't have to.
You reek of desperation for the credibility the term logical seems, to you, to confer ...but as you've since envisioned and described "logic" - in your terms..it has none. It's just a bunch of subjective nonsense......remember?
Fred is not fucking bob!!!! I already called you out on that. Fred and bob are both humans. Our rules here and goblygoop are both "LOGICAL". They are both a formal set of rules that define how a universe works. By that definition goblygoopland has its own version of logic. I'm not asking you to make sense of the actual rules (i.e. 2 + 2 = 5) because yes, TA-DAAA, they are not logical here. But I never said they were logical here. I said they are logical *there*. And the reason being is simply because why not? To say why they aren't logical there is to somehow say our rules here are the True Logic of all the universes. No, that simply isn't so. For all we know, our universe *is* goblygoop. The only way to find out is if we could uncondition our minds, which we obviously cannot. Capeesh?
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it" ~ Aristotle