(November 5, 2016 at 8:55 pm)Rhythm Wrote: .................really?
It's straw because that is neither the conjecture nor the point of contention. The OP does not insist that there -is- such a universe, it asks you what could be said -if there were-.
I've already dealt with this. Even the hypotehtical possibility of there being an illogical universe implies the logical law of identity within it. It's not even possible hypotehtically.
If there were an illogical universe then its identity would be that of an illogical universe... which is what the law of identity is... therefore there can't be an illogical universe.
Quote: Ignore everything you think about what -must- be true of every universe. Address the OP for the claim and question it is, and not -everything you think all universe must be-. This hypothetical universe evades your insistence, explicitly.
You said in an illogical universe logical laws wouldn't apply and then you're asking if they can be logical. I'm saying what you're saying makes no sense.
"If there was an illogical universe" that means "If there was a universe that was not itself", it's nonsense.