(November 6, 2016 at 2:34 am)Irrational Wrote:(November 6, 2016 at 2:18 am)FallentoReason Wrote: Actually, continuing from this, wouldn't it be very convenient - almost useful to the point of explaining why the word exists - to call this universe 'logical'? Because if it were, then it would definitely be interesting to think about. What's the point I'm making? That perhaps to be illogical is to be inconsistent. If somehow their set of axioms never gave the same answer to 2 + 2, then it would be completely illogical, because to them ponies are mushroom explodes, but tomorrow ponies are grey babbles. Nothing ever follows, because nothing really follows a set of axioms. And this kind of universe isn't interesting because we could never grasp anything about it, since nothing will follow from anything we can say about it.
The thing is, when you determine that something is illogical, you must be forced to use our (this universe's/cosmos's) logic to make that determination. I don't, and most likely will never, know what it is like for anything to be logical in a way different from our usual conception of logic. And I have no idea how to determine that something we determine to be illogical using our logic can be possible regardless of our logic.
So my answer, overall, is that if something that is illogical by our logic (such as A being not A simultaneously) can happen regardless, then so be it. But I just won't ever know using our logic.
But isn't enough to know that it's a beast, without knowing what kind of beast it is? We aren't required to try and understand their axioms to know they will be logical, because so long as they form a coherent set by which that universe can function, then you have something which is inherently logical.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it" ~ Aristotle