(November 6, 2016 at 8:46 am)bennyboy Wrote:(November 6, 2016 at 8:36 am)FallentoReason Wrote: Only because I'm conditioned to the language we use in this universe. That's already been mentioned, that we can't begin to comprehend what a different universe would be like. But you can grab that sentence right there and know what I'm trying to say as the hypothetical. I'm not required to give you the metaphysics of a different set of logic. That would be impossible.
You're saying "if another universe were different, it would be different."
But your 2+2 example fails, because 2 is 2, 4 is 4, and 2 + 2 = 4. If there were other quantities or properties than those, they wouldn't be those, and we wouldn't call them that.
You might as well say, in another universe, I might not be me. I might be someone else. But that's wrong-- that would be someone else, and not me at all.
Here's a novel idea: there is such a universe with the law of multiple identities. Now 2 + 2 could have more than one answer. But we're still trying to rationalise something that our logic inherently can't describe. No example will be sufficient to provide us with a preview of goblygoop. So we need to move past that.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it" ~ Aristotle