RE: On Logic and Alternate Universes
November 6, 2016 at 11:52 am
(This post was last modified: November 6, 2016 at 11:54 am by Edwardo Piet.)
(November 6, 2016 at 11:39 am)Rhythm Wrote: .............................................................holy, shit, Ham..............
To equivocate, with the statement above, I would have to be using different senses of any of the terms employed above, which I'm not. In their universe, that operation, of those quantities, yields that sum..in each case, exactly how we have defined every single term. Tw is two, as in two pebbles in my hand. Plus is adding things together, as in adding two pebbles to two pebbles, and 5, is five pebbles, as in the sum - in that universe, of two pebbles added to two pebbles, in my hand. That doesn;t happen here.
Oh for fuck's sake. You're saying that "2+2 =5" in such a universe because in such a universe another thing would pop into existence. But that's not what is meant by a sum. You're using your own made up sense of it (i.e. you're equivocating). 2+2 doesn't mean when you add two things and two things then no extra things pop into existence and 2+2=5 doesn't mean when you add two things and two things then 1 thing pops into existence. 2+2=4 means that two things and two things is the same amount of things as four things and two + two = 5 means that four things are five things which is simply false and logically impossible because it violates the law of identity. There is no hypothetical universe that we can describe that doesn't have a description. There is no hypothetical universe with an identity that doesn't have an identity. There is no hypothetical universe when A= not A. I feel like I'm totally wasting my time here this is really below me I need to find something more worthwhile than explaining to you why a universe with a a different identity must have an identity.