RE: On Logic and Alternate Universes
November 6, 2016 at 1:14 pm
(This post was last modified: November 6, 2016 at 1:16 pm by Edwardo Piet.)
(November 6, 2016 at 1:08 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Again, you're a moron, I do agree with that, I've told you as much at least half a dozen times now. Just stop.
How am I a moron when you keep contradicting yourself?
Quote:-in the hypothetical- it does not have to hold,
Yes it does. So stop telling me you agree.
Quote: and even if it did, it would not be sufficient condition to consider the larger rule set logical.
Doesn't matter. You've already agreed that if it holds 2+2=4 because 2+2=5 violates it and if the OP includes the Law of Identity then the OP is mistaken in thinking that it doesn't include any of 'our' logical laws.
Quote: It is a complete irrelevance, -to the hypothetical- even if true.
This is why we don't agree. YOU CAN'T HAVE A HYPOTHETICAL WITHOUT IT BEING A HYPOTHETICAL WITHOUT A=A.
That's relevant to the hypothetical because the hypothetical claims for 'our' logical laws to not hold and A=A is one of 'our' logical laws. Scare quotes because "A=A" isn't one of 'our' logical laws, it's an absolute logical law that applies in all hypotheticals regardless of what universe.
For fucks sake. Are you taking the piss? The Law of Identity has to hold in the hypothetical because otherwise it's not actually a hypothetical. A=A holds everywhere in all hypotheticals and all universes. There is no sense in which "if X then Y" (a hypothetical) does not mean "if X then Y", it doesn't matter what universe we're in. Whatever universe is being described the universe being described is the universe being described. A=A. You're the moron here so fuck off with the insults dipshit.
