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A serious question for theists
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RE: A serious question for theists
(November 6, 2016 at 4:22 pm)Lek Wrote:
(November 5, 2016 at 6:43 pm)dyresand Wrote: How do you exactly know if God/Jesus even loves you?
The bible only supports god loving a select few people so yeah you can't exactly use it.

Your whole premise is wrong.  The bible doesn't say he loves only a select few.  It he says that he loved the world so much that he gave his son to take on the wrath of sin for the whole world.


Why couldn't god have just forgiven humanity for the "wrath of sin" instead of using substitutionary atonement?

After all, it is his universe and his rules. Why the need of a sacrifice?

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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A serious question for theists - by dyresand - November 5, 2016 at 6:43 pm
RE: A serious question for theists - by purplepurpose - November 6, 2016 at 3:39 am
RE: A serious question for theists - by dyresand - November 6, 2016 at 4:52 am
RE: A serious question for theists - by goombah111 - November 6, 2016 at 5:01 am
RE: A serious question for theists - by ApeNotKillApe - November 6, 2016 at 6:01 am
RE: A serious question for theists - by goombah111 - November 8, 2016 at 6:14 pm
RE: A serious question for theists - by Edwardo Piet - November 6, 2016 at 7:05 am
RE: A serious question for theists - by Edwardo Piet - November 6, 2016 at 7:07 am
RE: A serious question for theists - by Lek - November 6, 2016 at 4:22 pm
RE: A serious question for theists - by dyresand - November 6, 2016 at 8:47 pm
RE: A serious question for theists - by Lek - November 6, 2016 at 9:24 pm
RE: A serious question for theists - by Expired - November 7, 2016 at 7:16 am
RE: A serious question for theists - by dyresand - November 7, 2016 at 11:07 am
RE: A serious question for theists - by Drich - November 7, 2016 at 11:37 am
RE: A serious question for theists - by dyresand - November 7, 2016 at 1:49 pm
RE: A serious question for theists - by Drich - November 7, 2016 at 4:51 pm
RE: A serious question for theists - by Minimalist - November 7, 2016 at 12:14 pm
RE: A serious question for theists - by mlmooney89 - November 7, 2016 at 12:56 pm
RE: A serious question for theists - by Doubting Thomas - November 8, 2016 at 1:09 pm
RE: A serious question for theists - by Crossless1 - November 8, 2016 at 3:07 pm
RE: A serious question for theists - by Ignorant - November 12, 2016 at 12:39 pm
RE: A serious question for theists - by ApeNotKillApe - November 6, 2016 at 10:36 pm
RE: A serious question for theists - by Simon Moon - November 7, 2016 at 2:16 pm
RE: A serious question for theists - by Edwardo Piet - November 7, 2016 at 6:57 pm
RE: A serious question for theists - by Drich - November 7, 2016 at 10:51 am
RE: A serious question for theists - by John V - November 7, 2016 at 12:10 pm
RE: A serious question for theists - by dyresand - November 7, 2016 at 1:47 pm
RE: A serious question for theists - by John V - November 7, 2016 at 3:19 pm
RE: A serious question for theists - by dyresand - November 7, 2016 at 6:53 pm
RE: A serious question for theists - by John V - November 8, 2016 at 9:13 am
RE: A serious question for theists - by Simon Moon - November 7, 2016 at 2:11 pm
RE: A serious question for theists - by vorlon13 - November 7, 2016 at 1:06 pm
RE: A serious question for theists - by Neo-Scholastic - November 8, 2016 at 10:20 am
RE: A serious question for theists - by The Grand Nudger - November 8, 2016 at 10:50 am
RE: A serious question for theists - by The Grand Nudger - November 8, 2016 at 6:17 pm
RE: A serious question for theists - by Funky_Gibbon - November 12, 2016 at 7:06 pm

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