Why Trump has won

[Aroura]

Bigots were already there. There's been bigotry in America, there's never been a time when there was not bigotry in America in some form. There were always bigots who were going to vote for Trump whatever political climate we live in.

What I think has swayed it, and I think this is why we're seeing the rise of this horrible alt-right movement across The West, is that we have a Left-wing who are alienating and failing people who would support them by abandoning their traditional principles.

The elephant in the room here, imo at least, is The Left. When you have this SJW culture who are on a crusade of "this is my opinion. You're going to agree and agree 100% or you're a bigot who belongs with Trump", you shrink the space for people who are caught between that and the Trump-like far-right. You have certain groups and individuals who would normally vote left, but they feel so alienated by this screaming radical Left that Trump honestly looks more appealing.

I know right now that me just pointing that out will get some of this lots' backs up, who will read what I've just wrote as me being "alt-right", even though I've consistently made posts on this forum expressing firmly leftist views.

I think Trump like so many other people on the alt-right, by appropriating traditionally leftist language of "rights" and "freedoms", appeals to people who are very concerned about encroaching Islamism post-Orlando and Paris. Why is "gays for Trump" a thing? Because what I saw with my own eyes as a gay man post-Orlando was a pathetic weak Left, who were scared to name the problem of anti-gay bigotry within Islam. They really drop the ball on this, and allow people like Trump to come into that space and, instead of critiquing religion in a nuanced and liberal way, to just say they want to ban all Muslims from America. While that is totally illiberal and deplorable, it sounds good to scared people who the Left are failing. It's an "at least they're saying something" mentality.

I have to agree.  The PC went too far left, and alienated many of their own.  And I'm also a very left person.

But this certainly wasn't a Clinton problem, this is just that the loudest people tend to be heard, while most people in any movement are not those people.  Am I represented by extreme feminists?  No. Most of what they say is as offensive to me as if they were misogynists. But if I say I'm a feminist, I get lumped in with the extremists by many people by default.  This is happening to every group.  Everyone is getting painted poorly be the extremists in their groups thanks to news and social media.

This, however, isn't just a leftist problem.  As the Right went far right the left went hard left.  This is a human behavior problem on both sides.