RE: Supernatural isn't a useful concept
November 10, 2016 at 3:18 am
(This post was last modified: November 10, 2016 at 3:19 am by GrandizerII.)
(November 10, 2016 at 3:07 am)theologian Wrote:(November 10, 2016 at 2:40 am)Irrational Wrote: I'd like to dwell on this bit here, if you don't mind.
How did God create time outside of time? Shouldn't time always be a correlate of any act, including the act of creation?
The only thing that makes sense is that time has always been, whether physical or metaphysical or whatever you want to call it. You can never make sense by saying that an entity can timelessly create. It's just absurd.
I think it is not absurd. For, it is just seemingly absurd to us, for we haven't experienced eternity, which is the state outside of time, of change, succession of moments. However, there will be absurdity if we will relate time with God, Whom is beyond time and space, as He is Being Himself. An analogy which is far from being specific can be used: An author who plans to write a story exist in his mind all the successive events in the story. If we are in the story, then the time runs in a regular manner. But in the mind of the author, it can be all at once. If that is possible with man, the more it is possible with God.
It's logically absurd. The only way you can get out of this is by saying God defies logic anyway. But then that would mean God could also create a square-triangle and also create an object he is unable to lift or destroy or other such absurd things.
The analogy doesn't address how time came to be because for the author to write the story (or even plan to write it) in the first place, time must have already occurred. And this is because, once again, time is automatically a correlate of act, whether it's divine or not.