(November 8, 2016 at 4:32 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I dunno... I think even if it was caught on tape, skeptics would still say it was a trick or w/e. I don't think anything would be evidence enough.
If it was like the bigfoot tape or the loch ness monster photograph, I would have to agree with them.
But as for "anything" not being enough... it seems to me that theists do not trust God's ability to convince people that He is real. Mind you, it's a valid concern considering how few people agree on which version of God is the real one. And the Bible does give the impression that God simply isn't that convincing. So many people who had direct evidence of His existence --including a third of the angels in heaven, who saw Him in his full power and glory!-- nonetheless rejected him, even though at least some of them knew what the consequences of that action were.
I mean, Adam and Eve had a direct and personal relationship with God. They got to speak with him and hear back from him. They knew him as a person, presumably as a father-figure and guide and as the magnificent and mighty God that he is. And yet, all it took was a chatty snake to get Eve to agree that God was a liar (!!!) and to violate his direct command not to eat the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge. And all she had to do was offer Adam a piece and he was all in! When I was young, if my mother had told me not to touch the fruit of a particular tree I can assure you that not even a talking snake was going to get me to risk having my ass turned into bloody ribbons, okay? And I'll bet a lot of us know at least a few people whose impact on our behavior was similar. Which means all of those people were a far more effective teacher than GOD.
Do you see why a videotape might not convince a lot of us?
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould
-Stephen Jay Gould


