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The Problem Has Now Been Defined
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RE: The Problem Has Now Been Defined
(November 11, 2016 at 12:52 pm)Chad32 Wrote: It isn't the people's fault for being unmotivated. It's the DNC's fault for pushing out a horrible candidate. We know for a fact that the DNC tried their hardest to beat down Bernie, and they still couldn't get him mathematically eliminated. If Bernie had the nomination, people would have gone out to vote. It's not the voter's fault Trump won.

Idealism versus pragmatism. What they need to ask themselves today is: would it have been better to show up and vote Hillary into office knowing that it validated a structure that they feel needs to go? Do they feel that President Trump is an acceptable wake-up call for the DNC and that this will force them to change or remove the super-delegate structure? Or do they feel that President Trump is the worst possible option and that they should have held their noses and voted for Clinton?

2018 and 2020 could hinge on how those options are distributed among those who did not vote for Hillary or who simply stayed home.

Nor can the DNC simply assume that this is a lesson learned and that their task is to find another Obama who can galvanize young and minority voters. Because those voters are growing up, and many of them will be of working age in two or four years. And that experience could lead to changes in how they view their voting options.

As an aside, I wonder if the GOP is considering the concept of super-delegates for future elections.
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The Problem Has Now Been Defined - by Minimalist - November 10, 2016 at 11:19 pm
RE: The Problem Has Now Been Defined - by Iroscato - November 10, 2016 at 11:34 pm
RE: The Problem Has Now Been Defined - by Minimalist - November 10, 2016 at 11:40 pm
RE: The Problem Has Now Been Defined - by Grandizer - November 11, 2016 at 1:09 am
RE: The Problem Has Now Been Defined - by Aroura - November 11, 2016 at 1:18 am
RE: The Problem Has Now Been Defined - by Tiberius - November 11, 2016 at 1:36 am
RE: The Problem Has Now Been Defined - by Bob Kelso - November 11, 2016 at 5:34 am
RE: The Problem Has Now Been Defined - by abaris - November 11, 2016 at 6:45 pm
RE: The Problem Has Now Been Defined - by Whateverist - November 10, 2016 at 11:44 pm
RE: The Problem Has Now Been Defined - by Minimalist - November 10, 2016 at 11:49 pm
RE: The Problem Has Now Been Defined - by Aegon - November 10, 2016 at 11:51 pm
RE: The Problem Has Now Been Defined - by Aroura - November 11, 2016 at 12:25 am
RE: The Problem Has Now Been Defined - by Minimalist - November 11, 2016 at 11:47 am
RE: The Problem Has Now Been Defined - by Whateverist - November 10, 2016 at 11:55 pm
RE: The Problem Has Now Been Defined - by Iroscato - November 10, 2016 at 11:56 pm
RE: The Problem Has Now Been Defined - by Aroura - November 11, 2016 at 12:26 am
RE: The Problem Has Now Been Defined - by account_inactive - November 11, 2016 at 12:27 am
RE: The Problem Has Now Been Defined - by Aroura - November 11, 2016 at 1:10 am
RE: The Problem Has Now Been Defined - by Tonus - November 11, 2016 at 9:16 am
RE: The Problem Has Now Been Defined - by SteelCurtain - November 11, 2016 at 12:29 am
RE: The Problem Has Now Been Defined - by vorlon13 - November 11, 2016 at 1:30 am
RE: The Problem Has Now Been Defined - by vorlon13 - November 11, 2016 at 1:32 am
RE: The Problem Has Now Been Defined - by vorlon13 - November 11, 2016 at 1:36 am
RE: The Problem Has Now Been Defined - by Cecelia - November 11, 2016 at 2:55 am
RE: The Problem Has Now Been Defined - by ReptilianPeon - November 11, 2016 at 3:01 am
RE: The Problem Has Now Been Defined - by Grandizer - November 11, 2016 at 3:12 am
RE: The Problem Has Now Been Defined - by account_inactive - November 11, 2016 at 5:24 am
RE: The Problem Has Now Been Defined - by ReptilianPeon - November 11, 2016 at 4:12 am
RE: The Problem Has Now Been Defined - by Faith No More - November 11, 2016 at 8:34 am
RE: The Problem Has Now Been Defined - by Iroscato - November 11, 2016 at 8:59 am
RE: The Problem Has Now Been Defined - by Faith No More - November 11, 2016 at 9:13 am
RE: The Problem Has Now Been Defined - by Excited Penguin - November 11, 2016 at 10:23 am
RE: The Problem Has Now Been Defined - by vorlon13 - November 11, 2016 at 9:55 am
RE: The Problem Has Now Been Defined - by Mister Agenda - November 11, 2016 at 11:25 am
RE: The Problem Has Now Been Defined - by Silver - November 11, 2016 at 11:53 am
RE: The Problem Has Now Been Defined - by Tiberius - November 11, 2016 at 12:09 pm
RE: The Problem Has Now Been Defined - by Minimalist - November 11, 2016 at 12:18 pm
RE: The Problem Has Now Been Defined - by Grandizer - November 11, 2016 at 12:24 pm
RE: The Problem Has Now Been Defined - by The Grand Nudger - November 11, 2016 at 12:22 pm
RE: The Problem Has Now Been Defined - by Minimalist - November 11, 2016 at 12:24 pm
RE: The Problem Has Now Been Defined - by Chad32 - November 11, 2016 at 12:52 pm
RE: The Problem Has Now Been Defined - by Tonus - November 11, 2016 at 2:33 pm
RE: The Problem Has Now Been Defined - by Thumpalumpacus - November 11, 2016 at 1:29 pm
RE: The Problem Has Now Been Defined - by Aroura - November 11, 2016 at 1:38 pm
RE: The Problem Has Now Been Defined - by Pat Mustard - November 11, 2016 at 6:13 pm
RE: The Problem Has Now Been Defined - by Thumpalumpacus - November 11, 2016 at 1:53 pm
RE: The Problem Has Now Been Defined - by Iroscato - November 11, 2016 at 2:02 pm
RE: The Problem Has Now Been Defined - by Thumpalumpacus - November 11, 2016 at 2:52 pm
RE: The Problem Has Now Been Defined - by Tiberius - November 11, 2016 at 2:04 pm
RE: The Problem Has Now Been Defined - by Neo-Scholastic - November 11, 2016 at 3:03 pm
RE: The Problem Has Now Been Defined - by Tiberius - November 11, 2016 at 3:11 pm
RE: The Problem Has Now Been Defined - by Chad32 - November 11, 2016 at 3:14 pm
RE: The Problem Has Now Been Defined - by Neo-Scholastic - November 11, 2016 at 5:51 pm
RE: The Problem Has Now Been Defined - by Chad32 - November 11, 2016 at 5:59 pm
RE: The Problem Has Now Been Defined - by Minimalist - November 11, 2016 at 6:00 pm
RE: The Problem Has Now Been Defined - by Cecelia - November 11, 2016 at 6:15 pm
RE: The Problem Has Now Been Defined - by Chad32 - November 11, 2016 at 10:26 pm
RE: The Problem Has Now Been Defined - by Aroura - November 11, 2016 at 6:38 pm
RE: The Problem Has Now Been Defined - by Whateverist - November 11, 2016 at 7:04 pm
RE: The Problem Has Now Been Defined - by ReptilianPeon - November 11, 2016 at 7:10 pm
RE: The Problem Has Now Been Defined - by Minimalist - November 11, 2016 at 10:30 pm

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