RE: Were social justice warriors responsible for the election outcome?
November 15, 2016 at 10:38 am
@OP: there was more to it than that, but yes, that was a big part of it.
It used to be that we could disagree with each other, but still listen to and understand each other. Recall (if you're old enough) All in the Family. It was clearly liberal in view and didn't portray opposing views in a positive light, but it did at least portray those views so that discussion could take place. Now, many on the left prefer to shut down discussion by playing the bigot card at the drop of a hat.
A few days ago on FB, a woman reposted the Chris Ball attack picture. I told her it was looking like a hoax. She told me to go iron my white sheets.
Here's the thing. You know those quizzes online that plot you on the political spectrum? I consistently score just slightly right of center. IIRC there's one that goes from -7 on the left to +7 on the right, and I score +.25 or +.5. The point is that I'm not far right, but she's so far left that even the center appears far right to her.
I've been trying to tell them that if they keep this mindset up, they might get 8 years of Trump instead of 4, but not many want to hear it.
Consider immigration. For a few years now, and pretty heavily this summer during the campaign, there have been reports of crime caused by refugees and immigrants coming out of Europe. The refugees/immigrants are frequently Muslims from the Middle East. Many Americans see that and think I don't want that here. So far we've been largely isolated from it. Let's keep it that way. These people don't think of themselves as racist deplorables. Calling them that shuts down discussion and makes it less likely they'll vote along with those calling them that.
Even if they think they're racist deplorables, it's obviously bad strategy to say that. So, why do they keep saying it, even after losing to Donald fucking Trump?
And guess what - in our system, it boils down to a choice between two candidates. The KKK is going to vote for one of them. That doesn't make every other person who voted that way akin to the KKK. That should be common sense, but some on the left are actually making that argument.
It used to be that we could disagree with each other, but still listen to and understand each other. Recall (if you're old enough) All in the Family. It was clearly liberal in view and didn't portray opposing views in a positive light, but it did at least portray those views so that discussion could take place. Now, many on the left prefer to shut down discussion by playing the bigot card at the drop of a hat.
A few days ago on FB, a woman reposted the Chris Ball attack picture. I told her it was looking like a hoax. She told me to go iron my white sheets.
Here's the thing. You know those quizzes online that plot you on the political spectrum? I consistently score just slightly right of center. IIRC there's one that goes from -7 on the left to +7 on the right, and I score +.25 or +.5. The point is that I'm not far right, but she's so far left that even the center appears far right to her.
I've been trying to tell them that if they keep this mindset up, they might get 8 years of Trump instead of 4, but not many want to hear it.
Consider immigration. For a few years now, and pretty heavily this summer during the campaign, there have been reports of crime caused by refugees and immigrants coming out of Europe. The refugees/immigrants are frequently Muslims from the Middle East. Many Americans see that and think I don't want that here. So far we've been largely isolated from it. Let's keep it that way. These people don't think of themselves as racist deplorables. Calling them that shuts down discussion and makes it less likely they'll vote along with those calling them that.
Even if they think they're racist deplorables, it's obviously bad strategy to say that. So, why do they keep saying it, even after losing to Donald fucking Trump?
And guess what - in our system, it boils down to a choice between two candidates. The KKK is going to vote for one of them. That doesn't make every other person who voted that way akin to the KKK. That should be common sense, but some on the left are actually making that argument.