Circumcision Ban

[Cinjin]

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Nobody is saying one can't do it at all. All I'm saying is it must be consented to and and 8 day old baby does not in any sense give their consent to it. Some of the recent comments are to do with wanting what's best for children. With respect, I don't think it's a parents decision to make whether or not their child has surgery on their genitals when it's not necessary. Sure, when they're in a position to give informed consent, let them go ahead and have it done, but it should be their decision.

Tackattack says it's another form of religious expression. You do not have a right to religious expression when it affects other people very seriously, in this case, it affects them to about one foreskin.

Genital mutilation in girls is for precisely the purpose of dulling sexual pleasure. Women are 'baby factories', they don't need sexual pleasure getting in the way of reproduction. After all, what if they are as prone to unfaithfulness as we men are? What's the solution, oh yes, let's cut off their clitoris.

Cinjin, points 5 and 6 on your list are matters of aesthetics and attitudes. That women are grossed out by a penis in it's natural state, is just weird. That's what it's supposed to look like after all. Being Irish the situation is opposite, most are not circumcised. Nobody seems to have any problems with it here. If it's just a case of being accepted, do we really have a right to take a knife to our children's genitals? If they want to do it, when they're at an age to make an informed decision, let them, by all means.

When the bible institutes circumcision, it doesn't mention any health benefits, it merely says it's an outward sign of the abrahamic covenant, something Jews should do to show their faith. Tribal emotions basically, all 'insiders' have no foreskin, all 'outsiders' have one.

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This is what I was saying though. I think you do indeed have some valid points. My personal problem in my own decision was - so does Rwandrell (and at least half of the medical community).

I already said that I didn't know for absolute sure that I made the right decision. I did what I thought (and was told) was best.
Keep in mind that points 5 and 6 were not the primary reasons for my overall decision, but they were factors I could not ignore in this country.

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Forcing your own beliefs on a child is not repugnant in the slightest. It's normal.

You believe killing people is bad (i hope). That freedom is good. That violence should not be the answer to everything. That being nice to other people is a good thing. You will force those beliefs on your child one way or another, like punishing him when he does something bad.

We all push our beliefs on our children because we think they will be better off holding those beliefs. The religious do the exact same thing.

To be fair ... I push my morality on my son. Not my beliefs. He knows absolutely nothing of my Deistic views. I find the teaching of religion to children repulsive.