RE: Trump on 60 Minutes
November 15, 2016 at 4:00 pm
(This post was last modified: November 15, 2016 at 4:10 pm by abaris.)
(November 15, 2016 at 3:01 pm)Tiberius Wrote: Again with the whole sob story rhetoric. Unless you can explain why people born in poor families in poor countries should have more rights than people who follow the legal process, you aren't exactly winning me over.
More rights or just equal rights? Who's arguing for more rights here?
As I said at the start, it's not a black and white issue. You're a desirable because you are a trained person from the first world. Others don't start out that way. I believe you when you say you worked hard for your citizenship, but there are people who face impossible odds going through the legal challenges.
I'm not arguing for keeping each and every illegal. What I'm arguing for is for taking a good hard look at what particular illegals have contributed to society so far and how well they are integrated in the time they have spent in any given country.
The ugha, bugha, deport them all approach is simply serving populous instincts. Deporting them all, is simply inhumane, if children come into the mix, it's also stupid, since it put economy at risk. The last number I have, there are probably more recent by now, is illegals contributing about 11 billions in taxes without getting anything out of the system. And they fill jobs noone else is willing to take. I would actually like for someone taking the approach of wholsale deportation and look at the faces of Joe or Jane Doe suddenly scrubbing the toilets or toiling the fields in the middle of nowhere in New Mexico.
(November 15, 2016 at 3:46 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: If you doubt that uninsured illegal immigrants are using the emergency rooms and don't believe they send their kids to public schools then you wouldn't believe any "citations".
What kids? The kids already born in the USA, hence being citizens or their "illegal" kids?