RE: ☢The Theistic Response➼ to Atheists saying, "It Doesn't mean God Did it"
November 19, 2016 at 3:17 pm
(November 19, 2016 at 2:52 pm)The Joker Wrote:(November 19, 2016 at 2:19 pm)Jesster Wrote: *****Those are just words, huh? Do you have an objective standard of morality by which you can judge whether or not something is morally right or wrong? If you do not have an objective standard of morality by which you can determine what is right or wrong, then what gives you the right to make moral judgments upon Nazi Germany or the God of the Bible?
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That's not anger. Those are just words. Get over it and stop being so salty.
Also, atheism has nothing to do with evolution. This has been explained to you. You are also providing a false dichotomy. It is not "either evolution or god." There could be other possibilities. Both could be wrong or both could be true. Backing up or disproving one has nothing to do with the other.
The burden of proof for evolution is also not on atheists. It's only on the person specifically trying to make a claim for evolution.
1. There is no objective morality. Life isn't that simple and neither are people. What may be "moral" in one situation, society, culture, job, family, marriage, etc. may immoral in another. Please engage your own imagination to understand how this applies to reality.
2. The way an argument first works is that the person making the claim has the duty to provide the evidence for it. "Evolutionists," so to speak, have been doing this nearly a century and a half now. If you want to do the work to understand it, the information is readily available to you. That is, science has done the work of providing evidence for its claims.
3. Returning to your question about the right to question certain behaviors as moral or immoral, all that's required is for one to value human life. If one values human life, then one understands why the Nazis were so awful. In the same vein, if one values human life, one can see why Yahweh is so awful for wiping out every man, woman, and child on the planet with the exception of Noah and his immediate family. And it isn't a long trip from there to see that Yaweh doesn't much value human life (I'll eschew the little detail about the masses in Hell burning forever for the sake of brevity), and is in fact scornful of it. Therefore, if one values human life the God of the Bible is probably the very worst example to follow, given that he's prone to wiping out entire planets full of humans.
I don't need the threat of permanent torture to keep me from doing cruel and unlawful things to other people. Do you?