RE: ☢The Theistic Response➼ to Atheists saying, "It Doesn't mean God Did it"
November 19, 2016 at 6:49 pm
(This post was last modified: November 19, 2016 at 6:53 pm by AceBoogie.)
(November 19, 2016 at 6:39 pm)The Joker Wrote: You do know there are satan worshippers that believes in God? Worshipping satan is an absolute certainity of being damned.
If there are such groups, they're not called Satanists. 'Satanist' was a word first used by early Christians to attack other Christian denominations for being heretics. The first group of people to use Satanism to describe a developed, working set of beliefs in how to interact with the world was Anton LaVey and his inner circle. Anton LaVey admits in The Satanic Bible that Satanists do not believe in any god or gods, but rather in forces of nature.
If there are people using the term "Satanist" to describe themselves as theistic individuals who worship an anthropomorphic deity called "Satan," I've never met them and I'm not sure how they're even coming to the conclusion that they are Satanists. Satanism is about individuality and getting the most out of life by pursuing personal goals and accepting yourself as a carnal being who has certain needs, wants and desires. Granted that's quite a simplification of the belief system. It's not about worshiping the devil, or anyone or thing for that matter.
Satanism is not about faith or worship but rather study. You don't become a Satanist, you read the literature and find a reflection of yourself in it and decide you will adopt this title that describes what you already are.
Hail Satan!
to whateverist: Yes a large part of me calling myself a Satanist is that I consider myself to be an opponent to all organized religion. While I'm not so outspoken about it I have no problem telling a Christian, Muslim, Jew or Buddhist why they're batshit crazy. But Satanism does also describe a set of beliefs that I happen to hold. Once again it's not about becoming a Satanist so much as reading The Satanic Bible and finding a reflection of yourself in the words you read. I would hedge my bets on saying that many more people are Satanists than who realizes it. Many people, even if they read the literature and agreed with what was written, would still probably not want to adopt the title. I happen to be content with adopting the title and using it to describe my beliefs.
“Love is the only bow on Life’s dark cloud. It is the morning and the evening star. It shines upon the babe, and sheds its radiance on the quiet tomb. It is the mother of art, inspirer of poet, patriot and philosopher.
It is the air and light of every heart – builder of every home, kindler of every fire on every hearth. It was the first to dream of immortality. It fills the world with melody – for music is the voice of love.
Love is the magician, the enchanter, that changes worthless things to Joy, and makes royal kings and queens of common clay. It is the perfume of that wondrous flower, the heart, and without that sacred passion, that divine swoon, we are less than beasts; but with it, earth is heaven, and we are gods.” - Robert. G. Ingersoll
It is the air and light of every heart – builder of every home, kindler of every fire on every hearth. It was the first to dream of immortality. It fills the world with melody – for music is the voice of love.
Love is the magician, the enchanter, that changes worthless things to Joy, and makes royal kings and queens of common clay. It is the perfume of that wondrous flower, the heart, and without that sacred passion, that divine swoon, we are less than beasts; but with it, earth is heaven, and we are gods.” - Robert. G. Ingersoll
