The Joker Wrote:Stimbo Wrote:Great. Now we have a working definition. That would mean that, for example, dogs are the same 'kind' as coyotes, foxes and jackals; cats the same 'kind' as lions, tigers and leopards; horses the same 'kind' as zebras and donkeys; and humans are the same 'kind' as gorillas, orangutans, chimpanzees and bonobos.
So they should all be able to interbreed, yes?
I as a creationist would agree to the point of the following.
Great. Now we have a working definition. That would mean that, for example, dogs are the same 'kind' as coyotes, foxes and jackals; cats the same 'kind' as lions, tigers and leopards; horses the same 'kind' as zebras and donkeys;
They are correct.
and humans are the same 'kind' as gorillas, orangutans, chimpanzees and bonobos.
But this I see no connection, Humans are far above them all, we are in the image of God, While unique in their own way, both humans and animals can have such features as eyes, noses, legs, and arms that point to our common Creator. It is the unique creation of mankind in the image of God that distinguishes us from all other creatures. This still-common idea is not in the slightest a proof of evolution. It is simply an assumption by those who reject creation. So what about the classifications? Well, Creationists gave Humans their very own classification.
Or you could go with genus instead of family as synonymous with 'kind' as I suggested earlier. Humans, family Hominidae, Genus Homo, Species Homo Sapiens. Humans are the only extant species in genus Homo. The roaring cats are in the same genus and at least some of them can interbreed, but they can't interbreed with Felinae (all non-Pantherine cats). Ordinary scientific taxonomy gives humans their own classification, too.
Did you pick 'family' instead of 'genus' as synonymous with 'kind' for some particular reason?
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.